Darius needs some help.

WaifuRanker··10 votes·947 views

A little piece of trivia for you. Darius has not received one buff since patch 5.20. That was about 2 years ago now. And yet, he has always had a decent winrate. Sometimes it has been higher, others lower- however, for the past few patches, Darius has not gone above a 50% winrate, and he still has the same play/ban-rate!. It started in patch 7.11, where we see that when Darius is about to get his fifth stack with his q, it now only puts on stack on anyone else hit. Now that's all fine and good. It was technically a bug, a bug that helped a Darius player with team fighting, but still a bug. But what really pissed me off, personally, was patch 7.14- where out of the fucking blue, we got a -10AD passive nerf. What the fuck was that for? Since then, Darius has never been above a 50% winrate. And then, the preseason comes around- the god damned preseason. Fervor of Battle was the one thing that was keeping us relevant after that passive nerf, because we actually got to have some of our passive damage back, and when we ulted, we might actually kill them. But now? No matter what rune we take, our early game is equally as shitty. A damn Nasus does more damage, and can bully us out of lane. We still have a late game yes, but I have 3 points for that. For one thing, games don't really last long enough for darius to actually do damage now. Even in bronze, the average game duration isn't even 30 minutes. And 2. even if we do make it to late game... why play Darius over literally any other brain dead tank? Darius has 1, "hard CC" ability, and 1 slow. Why do that, when you can play Maokai, or Naut? And lastly... just fuck you. Darius is weak as shit, but if you look here, you see Darius is still banned in a quarter of all games! Going by winrate, Darius is only a little bit better than god damn Nunu, and people still think Darius is the OP of the Broken of the top lane. Here is how you beat Darius right now- play literally anyone else, and dodge his Q. Well anyway, that is all I have to say about the subject. /rant. I doubt this post will get much attention, but I was just pissed off about the state of my favorite champion. So.. yeah.

21 Comments

Tahminatrix 5 votes

Maybe darius isnt underpowered? Maybe hes balanced and in a near perfect spot

Pretty sure a red will come and say something like that.

Yaśuo Main4 votes

Its commonly known that a 50% winrate is balanced. While that doesn't really mean the champion is balanced, being below that is probably underpowered.

Blåbæret1 votes

Plenty of champions below 50% win rate that are or have been overpowered. The prime example being Ryze.

Win rate without context means nothing.

DU Baymax3 votes

I agree, but the reason ryze is balaned while having a low win rate is because his kit is extremely complex and the only reason his win rate is low is because people don't properly take advantage of it. When his win rate across all ranks is average, he is overpowered as shit in pro play and very high ranks. The same cant be said for darius, his kit is mechanically pretty simple.

Salamencę4 votes

It doesn't matter how many posts are made about him, Riot isn't going to buff him.

Yma S3 votes

BUFF DARIUS FUCK THE LOW ELO

Grubbling Butter3 votes

Maybe possibly bringing back his isnta Q or at least something similar to a Sion Q? and possible increase his pull range just a tad bit, because every time i try to pull it just barely and i mean BARELY out of range.

DU Baymax3 votes

bringing back insta q would instantly make darius insanely op. That basically means he has a guaranteed heal every time his q is up on top of the bleed stack. The biggest counterplay most champions have to darius when they're trying to duel him is now dodging that q. It is incredibly important.

Grubbling Butter1 votes

i was thinkin a lil somehin like this, if riot would do something similar to a sion Q

If he insta Q's he doesnt heal at all or very little, and if you were to hold it for the .75 seconds he heals as much as he does now, which is 13% i believe. and dont foget that pull range, pure trash to be honest. enemies barely out of range and if a champion get a movement speed buff theyre 90% not going to get pulled. Same as if a champion is dashing

Jesus Is My King2 votes

no

Sujiren2 votes

I think he is in a decent spot still. Definetely feel drop in early game damage, especially since I take new phase rush, but his midgame feels stronger than before.

Troll for Trump2 votes

Riot confirmed they are looking at it.

Also, Darius shouldn't be a lategame champion. Idk why Riot keeps pushing for it. He should be a lane bully that falls off as the game progresses; that was his identity.

Seenan1 votes

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Riot confirmed they are looking at it.

Also, Darius shouldn't be a lategame champion. Idk why Riot keeps pushing for it. He should be a lane bully that falls off as the game progresses; that was his identity.

That's a sure-fire way to keep him, along with half+ the roster, out of competitive. Do we really want that?

Troll for Trump1 votes

Yes, when was the last time you ever saw a competitive champ not get nerfed?

Ok, there are a few posterboys, but still. If he shows up in competitive, he'll either: Get nerfed Become the next Lee SIn

Zero Skill Tank2 votes

When Darius player calls other champions 'braindead'

[sg-jinx]

Cünt Thumper 392 votes

I completely agree he gets banned way to often for how shitty he is rn. If they buff him he will only get banned more often and become a zed and banned every game. I think a buff is necessary for his early game I find myself feeding hard in the early game I'm not the best player but still before the new runes I could win just about every lane. Now I can't win any lanes even against a fucking garen. I think that they should buff his attack speed, his q damage or lifesteal, or his base ad to boost his early game. I'm just afraid he will be banned every game and become irrelevant. Sad time for us Darius mains

Blåbæret1 votes

Darius doesn't need help.

A toxic champion design should never be viable.

JavelinJoe1 votes

Darius is one of those champs that can never be buffed to 50%+ win rate. This is because if he is made freelo easy, he is too OP. He requires skill since his kit covers a lot of areas. He is tanky, has true damage, a good DOT, a gap closer that is also hard CC, a massive slow, and an AOE heal that applies to all targets hit. Darius should have an element of skill required to be good if his kit is going to be giving him so much.

He is struggling because RIOT for some reason loves sub 30 minute game times. If he is not snowballing already, Darius really kicks in after 20 ish minutes and at the point where most games now are near ending because of heavy snowballing, he cant really make much of an impact.

DU Baymax2 votes

wtf are you talking about darius has far less cc than most tanks. the only place he really shines in comparison to most tanks is his DPS. He gets kited harder than many, isn't as tanky as many, and falls off harder late game than many. His kit does not have that much loaded into it comparatively, and his strongest point of the game is probably right after he finishes his black cleaver.

Lord of Math1 votes

Instead of buffing him, just make a rune tree or just a couple keystones that would help him and his friends more.
A item 3742 passive keystone with % ms scaling with levels. The stacking AD that they took off of press the attack. and maybe something to give Brand and Dot champs some love a DFT derivative. Make it scale off of AD/AP/Max health Adaptive. and make it like 5 dmg per tick for a nice while, say five seconds, so that it does not kill tanks, but does work on squishies.

Hentai Džinks1 votes

Darius needs some buffs honestly because new runes screw him completely. There is just no perfect rune setup for him at the moment, if you take press the attack tree, he has no extra ad and despite his atk speed rises, his P and R early levels falls hard. If he takes any other path (electrocute, phase rush, aery, etc) he gets tons of extra ad but his attack speed... oh boy - its as good as dragon attack speed. So my suggested buffs for darius would be as following: Passive - AD scaling increased to 50% instead of 30% ( i know, i know it looks like op buff, but in fact it will only increase his early laning by a very bit since all the preseason gave him is the higher base ad which does not favor his passive. Late game it might seem like a 50% is a lot for darius passive but lets be honest - in late game this will be meaningless as darius either overkills targets with DUNk or gets immediately shut down. Its all about getting those 5 stacks for the Noxian might late, not the bleed damage) Base attack speed increased to 0.660 from 0.625 and growth increased to 0% - 20% instead of 0% - 17% Now that darius can no longer get extra attack speed early or get just too much attack speed and completely hinder his early AD, he need that extra attack speed. This will put him into position where he can go Press the Attack and go for tankiness while stil lgetting off fast aa's towards that Noxian might or be regular lane bully with early AD and Electrocute or aery and harass enemy laner

These buffs aren't that tremendous but it will definitely put darius in better position

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