New katarina makes me cry want old one back

DEVEL1234··2 votes·1,661 views

The new katarina makes me cry literaly I used to love kat even tho i was bad at playing her but now i literaly cry I want the old one back riot pls bring the old kat back i want to uninstall league because of her changes pleas take this into consideration

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JustMonika134 votes

Have fun uninstalling, new Kat is tons of fun and takes more thought than old kat did.

0to1603 votes

I definitely like the old one better than the new one.

DEVEL12341 votes

Thank you your the first one to agree with me and not be nasty in a passive agresive way You coment is greatly aprechiated [slayer-jinx-wink]

Sir Fuzzi2 votes

What's wrong with new Katarina? She has a bit more agency over her positioning and gets more flexibility in exchange for control over her damage. As a result, she can blink in and out of fights, and now scales on three skills(!) to AD and AP which opens her up to a lot of build options. In six months, we'll see AD-based Katarinas shredding the competition, I bet!

But more importantly, it's the only one that makes sense. They pulled her dichotomy from feast-or-famine and moved it to something that gets a bit more contribution at all stages of the fight, rather than, 'Their CC's down, time's up, let's do this! KATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!-RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! presses R'

Plastic Mem0ries2 votes

^.

Plus they added more counterplay with her.

The new kat was needed :)

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

Well yes, both player and opponent benefit from her windows and approaches being clear. The range indicator on her R was also nice...

LordGeovanni1 votes

While i dis agree with the counter play seeing as she has blinks on top of blinks. not dashes blinks and zones you out by haveing daggers on the floor and no longer draws minion agro by trying to proc the second part of her q. she is definiely more fun and slightly more complex. there is really only more counter play if the player is brain dead but thats neither here nor there.

noobmev2 votes

gj riot you made us hate the game even more changing a champion that we like and main and bought skins on her and you made us hate her her now...

Śhunpo2 votes

New Katarina is a joke. For one she goes against her primary design philosophy, which is mainly to do with her passive. She's supposed to be the Reset Queen, not the queen of "get one kill then escape". Essentially what I'm trying to say is her passive is no longer a core part of her identity and it's not very useful either on her current kit.

Her reworked Shunpo is just nonsensical with its cast time, making it a clunky and overall slow move. Her reworked W is just dull. Her reworked Q....I could honestly live with IF it was on old Kat. And her ult is the same thing.

Additionally her previous kit flowed well with itself, where this new kit just feels clunky. Trust me, after messing around with both Kats for a few 100 hours in games I can safely tell you that the new Kat is a lot less satisfying to play and a lot more boring.

There was no reason to rework her outside of "she stomps in low elo, let's change that". Good? If a champion is stomping in LoL elo then that means that they'll eventually figure out how to beat her, and thus they'll figure out how to beat each champion systematically by taking advantage of their peak points, and so you will get low elo players learning how to climb. The argument of "her burst damage is unfair" doesn't really apply since her burst damage was only really effective when she got ahead and any champion can one shot you if they get ahead enough.

"But new Katarina takes more skill to play!", false, I figured out how to play her within the first hour of playing the reworked version on the PBE. She's not hard at all. Ironically enough I'd say that she's easier than old Kat since the whole dagger mechanic explains itself more clearly than old Kat's kit. For one she lacks her ward hop, which was actually one of the things that separated good Kats from great Kats, mainly to do with speed and efficiency. She also lacks any form of strategic combo now outside of E->W->Q and Q->E->W....oh wait, they're exactly the same as old Kat's combos.

"But old Kat's abilities were targeted!", this Kat's abilities are also targeted and her daggers aren't hard to hit, so your point?

"But she's stronger now", stronger takes the back seat to fun and fulfillment. If I'm playing LoL I'm playing it primarily for my personal enjoyment, not to just win. Being stronger means that she has to have a lamer design aimed towards the meta. The previous Kat was great in the fact that she was satisfying to play AND she was never "unviable", she was always borderline meta or tier 2-tier 3, which isn't that bad for people who dedicated time to her.

With this new Kat I don't feel any fulfillment for a play I make. New Kat isn't fast or fluent, which was the primary reason as to why old Kat was so much fun to play. It seems like Riot just want to tone down the game's speed so that they can fulfill their fantasy of having tanks be unkillable behemoths who out DPS you, ADCs who have infinite mobility, self peel and damage, supports who shield for 5k+ and junglers who are tanky and gank 24/7. Oh wait, that's literally just competitive. Oh right, they don't want fast champs in the game because otherwise people might not play their meta champs which are used in competitive. It's almost like they base their balance predominately off of professional play since that's how they make a lot of money.

As for my overall opinion of new Kat....I don't hate her if I forget that old Kat ever existed....however, since old Kat did I hate the new Kat's guts since this piece of garbage is supposed to fill the place in my heart that old Kat took up. She was my main passion for playing and they took her away from me and many other Kat mains who loved her.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Ok, bye bye.

LordGeovanni1 votes

she has a slight delay now with and is nearly impossible to catch once she gets 3 all the minions go bye and the lane stays pushed until it bounces at least before she was limited by kill assist resets. and knowing where she would teleport if she engaged on you now she can teleport on any side of you and get a auto attack off and be running before you see what happens

Blàdedancer1 votes

New kat makes me smile, she is awesome

DEVEL12341 votes

just because you like the new kat dose not give you the right to be nasty to me

Zoeeee1 votes

Rip kat and all of her amazing skins. [zombie-nunu-bummed]

DEVEL12341 votes

I only liked the project one But yea the skinn is too good for the champion now [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Calabok1 votes

your tears are more refreshing than Mountain Dew

noobmev1 votes

gj riot you made it again now we hate the game even more cahnge the champions that we like to play and bought skins on them and now we hate them....

Nikola Desu1 votes

Yeah shes stronger now but, i had it more fun on olde one, its rly stupid to say but it will be fun to bring her back ,http://www.strawpoll.me/14414191 you can vote pld or this trashhy new

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