what i think riot should do with udyr's w and r

zetsuga··2 votes·515 views

OK so what i want to talk about today is udyr's Turtle stance scaling with AP instead of ad and what phoenix stance does.in my opinion this weakens the champ and literally makes u only need to use 2 stances.i want riot to change this as getting an AP jg item or and regular AP item in the middle of building ad really and i mean really slows down his scaling into the late game.so if we change that then i am sure he will be better than he is now,tank udyr top is good aswell and this might even make it a little stronger .i;m ok even if they change his turtle stance so the shield scales with hp.now lets talk about the his r Phoenix stance, where do i begin with this.first off base damage is really low, the A.O.E range is pretty small aswell and it has basically close to no use at all my recommendation is to the effects of the ability and change it i know that this is hard and it takes time but i'm my opinion it is really horrible at the moment. changing might give his more versatility and use because right now its just a button barely anyone presses when playing him.I literally only use it to help clear raptors early game.then rest of the game its useless,it just stays there.now basically what i'm trying to say is that riot should change the scaling on udyrs turtle stance from AP to ad/hp and change the effects of his phoenix stance and barely anyone levels it up.

that is what i wanted to share today,thank you for reading and please leave any questions you have below i will get to them as soon as i can.

10 Comments

Pieceofcandy2 votes

Udyr is in a pretty good spot atm, he doesn't need buffs atm both Phoenix and Turtle do pretty well and are even leveled first.

His Phoenix base damage is pretty high

Udyr R - 400 Zigg's Q - 255 Xerath Q - 240

Also Abilities don't do much damage if you don't max them.

zetsuga1 votes

yes but for a shield they are not that great his w shield is pretty low

Pieceofcandy1 votes

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yes but for a shield they are not that great his w shield is pretty low

That's prolly because the 2nd part of the Q where he heals for max and missing hp.

You have to take into account how low the cd is as well.

Janna's shield - 18 second CD/70 mana/70 shield Udyr shield - 6 second CD/45 mana/ 60 shield

Not the best comparison but, the scaling is low due to the CD/mana cost and passive beneath.

zetsuga1 votes

very veyr true

but even the low cd late game the shield gets chewn threw like nothing

Pieceofcandy1 votes

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very veyr true

but even the low cd late game the shield gets chewn threw like nothing

His shield also benefits from MR/Armor so it's not a flat 60 shield.

The shield mitigates alot of damage if you're not mashing it and using it to block incoming damage.

The value looks small but the amount of HP it saves during an fight is pretty good, but like I said it's only half the ability, the heal and shield are supposed to work together to help sustain him.

Sujiren2 votes

Remove phoenix stance, and replace it with an ultimate called „Ultra instinct”.

For the next 10 seconds Udyr automatically dodges all auto attacks, and sidesteps all skillshot based abilities if possible. Dragonball super ultra instinct soundtrack plays in the background whenever he uses his new ultimate.

Give Udyr a new voice over, and let Trick2g do all the lines. (LATA BITCH)

zetsuga2 votes

yaaaaassssssssss

i like te idea alot

Commader Kiwi1 votes

As an Udyr main, he is pretty good atm because you can go either tiger or Phoenix, but when udyr's build phenoix , they never build ap . they just go tanky and peel for adc's. He's just a tank when you go phoenix, and like every other tank, they have alot of damage over a long time . so I DONT GET what the arguement here is

PhearBunny1 votes

All I see is "buff Udyr" and my immediate answer is no. No, just don't. Don't do that.

zetsuga1 votes

i feel like this is needed

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