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Random in ARAM is total ASS.

vrki··8 votes·1,608 views

Riot, your random system for hero selection in ARAM is complete and utter garbage. You need to seriously look at the pseudonumbers being generated and fix the way the system operates on choosing the next selection because this same champ choice game after game after fucking game is getting really REALLY old.

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BLU Medic2 votes

I have a feeling it's wholly dependent on 1. how many champions you own and 2. who's free this week. Hence why accounts with only good ARAM champions are common.

Kowe The Ewok2 votes

There are people who made accounts for ARAM-only, they're not even few. Thus there's a good chance you'll face people who have a near flawless chance to get ARAM game winners like Nidalee, Sona or Soraka.

Direwolfiez2 votes

If you really think about it, and know that theoretical probability is different than experimental probability, you'll realize that you're just as likely to get one champ as another, yet it's still possible to get one champ three times in a row, even if you don't reroll. If you're basing your expectations off of theoretical probability, of course you're going to be disappointed; theoretical probability is pretty much useless in gathering statistics.

UndeZyrablee1 votes

I have ~20 characters on this account, and while it seems like I get the characters I hate more often, I dont. I looked at my match history... its pretty evenly spread over a large sample of games. I think its probably because you have more fun with the chars you like, so it seems to go faster.

Raptamei1 votes

You're supposed to make a new account for ARAMs and buy all of the ranged poke/heal champions and nothing else. That's how everyone does it.

Riot has no reason to change this because people just might buy boosts or champions for real money to speed up the grind on their ARAM account. Not saying they implemented this "feature" on purpose, but they have no business case for changing it because it would cost them money.

ƒæµ1 votes

I own all champs and Im pretty sure I still see a Sona in 100% of games lol.

Sire Hippington1 votes

Not sure what exactly you mean, but if our tiered of full poke comps on both sides in 90% of all arams, that has little to do with their random algorythm. The main problem are reroles, everyone that doesn't get a god-tier aram champ just rerolls till he gets one. That and the aram only accounts.

remove rerolles + let everyone randome from the full champion pool no matter if he owns them = +1000% diversity in aram.

Xonra1 votes

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Not sure what exactly you mean, but if our tiered of full poke comps on both sides in 90% of all arams, that has little to do with their random algorythm. The main problem are reroles, everyone that doesn't get a god-tier aram champ just rerolls till he gets one. That and the aram only accounts.

remove rerolles + let everyone randome from the fill champion pool no matter if he owns them = +1000% diversity in aram.

I always prefered the actual random element of aram and not really a fan of the rerolls, sadly those tryhards (even tryhards in aram) that just dodge when they don't get what they want (even with the rerolls people do this) make that a little frustrating.

Xonra1 votes

I tend to play a large amount of champions, but while I do have every champ, I can say easily I haven't even seen half the champions (for me personally) in aram since it was an official gamemode. I have gotten the same 15 champions more than any others, and there have been multiple stretches of games where I get the same champion 2 times in a row.

It is "random" but it isn't as random as it actually should be.

vrki1 votes

it's the pseudo random generator they have in place. it's total hogwash shit. they need to have a reduction limit e.g. if i get lee sin one game THEN I SHOULDN'T FUCKING GET IT FOR THE NEXT 10 GAMES INSTEAD OF THE VERY NEXT ONE.

Penguin Eclipse1 votes

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it's the pseudo random generator they have in place. it's total hogwash shit. they need to have a reduction limit e.g. if i get lee sin one game THEN I SHOULDN'T FUCKING GET IT FOR THE NEXT 10 GAMES INSTEAD OF THE VERY NEXT ONE.

It's not uncommon for me to get a champion 3 or more times within 10 games. I've had it happen with Taric and Garen in recent memory. On the other hand there are some champions I have never had. I've never rolled Elise that I can remember.

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