Do not rework Irelia

Dæmonicus··1 votes·1,195 views
Are we gonna get an Irelia rework anytime soon.?

Recently there are discussions about an Irelia rework. In this thread above, this mate complained about her imbalance and expressed his hatred to this champion. Although he is quite salty, the riot manager replied and mentioned the possibility of rework.

I have a couple of questions

Q1 Why do we have updates? I quote this from riot support

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202294884-Champion-Update-Schedule#h1q1 A champion update is a graphical or kit (play style) update that occurs after a champion's initial release. Over the past year, our teams have been working on updating champions whose visuals or gameplay don't fit with the current state of the game. Our goal is to level up any outdated visuals or gameplay to make them feel fresh while still retaining what makes them unique as a champion.

so here is the problem Q2 Is Irelia not fit with the current state of the game?

I think not. It is true that her playstyle remains almost the same since release but her current gameplay is not outdated. Her Pick ratio per game ranks at 60, though she got hard nerf in recent patches. It's completely different with the situation of the old Poppy, Fiora and Yorik, or the current Galio and Urgot. Since few people play them, a rework is necessary. Still lots of players pick Irelia as their top laner and we like the current Irelia. Why do u have to rework her?

Q3 Is Irelia unbalanced?

What is unbalanced? Let's see Camille. Her current win rate is 55.8%. When most players can easily win the game with certain champion and they dont need too much skills in it, I see it as imbalance. Look at the win rate of Irelia , 48%. After so much nerf in so many patches, some people still think Irelia is unbalanced. I really have nothing to say about it. If u really think so, u play lirelia and I play one of those. Darius Garen Fiora Jax Nasus Renekton Poppy Olaf Pantheon RumbleSinged Yorick Volibear See how things work. As a melee , Irelia is pretty good against ranged champion. But we have to notice that she performs quite common against current top champions

Q4 Is her E unhealthy

This mate said "In my eyes the main problem with Irelia is her E. By no means you should be punished because you outperform your enemy. What do i mean by outperforming? i mean winning trades. Her stun is disgusting "

It is ture that Irelia can sometimes turn the table back with her E . But almost all champions who have CC can do that , not only Irelia. For example, playing against Jax . U go in win trade, and have more health. Jax uses E. If u dont have any ability to disengage, u lose hard. playing against Renekton . U go in win trade, and have more health. Renekton uses AQA to gain fury. red fury AWA EAE. If u dont have any ability to disengage, lose hard.

I know u can feel mad when u get stunned and killed when u have more health. But that's not one thing only Irelia can do! Lots of champions like Ekko Fiora Renekton can do that with stun and ult healing! Why do u only hate Irelia!

Actually in laning phase, Irelia has at most 2 lvl E because E dmg was nerfed. Her stun lasts at most 1 second. It really cant do much. The main dmg of Irelia comes from her auto attack with w true dmg and her ult. If her W is on cooldown, she cant do much dmg even if she stuns u. When I play in normals against some low elo players, i usually crush them in lane. But when I play against players with equal elo, it's a different thing. The most difference is that they know how to engage and disengage at right timing based on the spell CD of both side. especially champions with high mobility like Riven or Fiora. I can crush a silver Fiora, and I can also lose lane to a diamond Fiora. It is a matter of skill and experience.

In teamfight her full level E lasts 2 second. But it is also not so easy as expected. If she dashes to her target with Q E combo , she cant stun her target at all. Some Irelia player would use flash + E combo if necessary. If she wants to stun an ADC, she needs to pick good timing and skill in it. It tells the difference between a pro and bad Irelia.

I want to talk about this disadvantage about her E. The stun triggers only in limited condition. It 's better than CC of Sion or Noc but actually not as reliable as some hard CC spells lik Jax E or renekton W

Q6 Who wants an Irelia rework?

I read lots of threads on forum . Who wants an Irelia rework? The answer is ridiculous. Those who hate her. ye, this thread is just a good example. This mate said "She is toxic as a champ and i hate how her overall kit works. " Why do those people who hate her have the right to decide her fate? This is really ridiculous. U nerfed Irelia because some ppl don't like her and now u want to rework Irelia still because they don't like her. Dont tell me rework is for some good consideration. Did u ever consider the feeling of those who like Irelia.

Q7 whether Irelia players want rework?

No. Some people say rework can make Irelia better. I cant help laughing! In 6.21 patch Irelia came back strong due to a new trinity. Then riot immediately nerfed her in the following patches. Riot wants to keep game balance and we agree with that. Rework can only lead to 2 situations: she 's too strong like fiora and they have to nerf her constantly or she becomes a failed work like more than half of the reworks done by riot. No matter what, a reworked champion is actually a new champion who only bears the previous name.The previous champion is actually deleted out of this game. Irelia would disappear and become someone else. This is like sentence to death.

Irelia deserves to exist in this game. U already destroyed Akali. Please leave Irelia alone and show her some mercy.

3 Comments

Ravenhale2 votes

Riot perceives there to be a thematic disconnect between what they currently feel a Psionic Blade Dancer should be and how Irelia's gameplay actually is. This same reasoning is being held over Pantheon and Swain. In most cases, players of the current version of a champion don't have issue with how a champion's gameplay works. Old Poppy mains enjoyed the old Diplomatic Immunity. It's almost always other players that dislike playing against a champion that forces a change.

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Dude she definitely needs a rework. Passive is shitt and her kit is very old.

Dotsinki1 votes

Irelia

Irelias kit is like they wanted a champion with mobility sustain and strong 1v1 power but they didn't have time to make an actuall champion. So they gave her a point click dash (gave it the reset), point click stun (gave it the %higher health). Lets make her autos the main dmg so health back and true dmg on autos. She doesn't have any mechanical counterplay which i think every champion should have in season 7, it just makes the game much more fun.

I know Irelia was released like 6 years ago but thats a good reason to why they should rework her, give her a interactive and fun kit.

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