Magic resist items change

Pelmorr·Aug 16, 2019·4 votes·1,404 views

With there being that many pen items in this game it honestly feels useless even going any magic resist? Armor items are 10x better than magic resist items as a whole simply because of their cost value being that much better. There's literally barely any early game magic resist items to go compared to armor. Specters cowl is straight garbage compared to rushing tabi, raptor cloak, bramble vest. Hey even mid laners rush seekers armguard. Enemy tank has a spirit visage? hey ill build morello, void staff and sorc boots and i one shot you

Please can we get an early game magic resist item or just buff the current magic resist items? or even just nerf the pen items, anything will be fine.

riot pls

4 Comments

HP CrookshanksAug 16, 20194 votes

You don't even know the difference between flat pen and percent pen.

item 3020 item 3916 grant flat magic pen and are countered by MR. (Strong if enemy has low MR, weak if enemy has high MR) item 3135 is the only item that counters MR because it grants percent magic pen. (Strong if enemy has high MR, weak if enemy has low MR)

Since there are lots of armor pen items are present, armor is much weaker compared to MR. That's why teams can go full AD but still win when full AP is a guaranteed loss because their only anti MR item is item 3135 .

WoonStruckAug 16, 20191 votes

Void is still strong at low MR btw. Just not very gold efficient.

Its low cost, decent AP, along with the pen make it a good, though not usually optimal, buy even if there's no MR. Why? Because sorc+void means true damage early game, while a later oblivion orb still keeps scaling MR champions at 0 MR with no MR purchased.

Not only this, but the inevitable lead you must have to make void an effective early buy means the enemy team is likely to build MR (if they don't it doesn't really matter what you build, you're probably going to win), meaning void is a worthwhile investment.

That said, do not purchase an early void staff if you don't get a significant lead early. Passives, CDR, etc are often safer if you cannot guarantee you will 1 shot with void staff early to get fed even more. Void staff is not very gold efficient at lower MRs (increasing damage by only 10%, plus AP), despite the significant damage spike you get, thus the lead you have must compensate that effective gold deficiency, due to the chance of them not building MR.

The more mana-reliant/specific-item-reliant your champion is, the less viable early void staff is for you.

Also, the lower your AP ratios, the less viable void is over oblivion orb.

The point of the early Void is to prevent any purchased MR from slowing you down BEFORE it is purchased, not the damage increase it gives by itself; there are more efficient options for a damage increase alone.

Tahminatrix Aug 16, 20192 votes

Don't forget that every champion has access to physical damage via auto attacks and everything that isn't a champion deals basic attack / physical damage** except** for obelisk (which does pure damage) and baron`s little aoe pool. ( I think)

Mr is useless against all of that.

boricCentaur1Aug 16, 20192 votes

Also basically all the tank mr items don't give a lot of mr and the passives are not good.

It's so fun playing poppy vs ap champions and only one item can MAYBE do something item 3194 .

Like there are armor items that give you a lot of hp and not a lot of armor and items that give you a lot of armor and little hp.

O yeah and basically every passive on armor items are just better then mr items including non tank items but especially tank items.

I can give you a example of a game where EVERY tank mr item does nothing but give stats it's impossible to do that with armor items.

O yeah there is also better pen for ap and almost every mage can fit item 3151 in there build so there goes the hp you get, meaning basically get nothing from them but a shit passive on most champions.