Yasuo NEEDS a nerf!

Zachawyy··21 votes·6,752 views

Alright so you guys can already tell what this thread is going to be about, just from reading the title. Yasuo essentially NEEDS a nerf. I'm not even, you know, joking about this or anything but, in the current meta, Yasuo is mainly strong in the top lane. Not the mid lane, not as ADC but in the top lane. Now you guys are probably wondering how and whatnot but, let me explain. Earlier on today, I was playing a Blind Pick Normal as Nasus and I went up against a Yasuo. Now essentially, you would think Nasus would legitimately just destroy Yasuo after getting what, 300 stacks in 10 minutes? Well, that didn't happen this time. What did happen was that, first of all, the server was just genuinely lagging so hard for me. It wasn't my internet or anything that was playing up, no, it was literally the server just going so slow like, whenever I was about to last hit a minion with my Q in my base, the Q just wouldn't activate. Like, I don't know, the game was just lagging so hard for me and not only that but, going back to what I was saying about how Nasus can easily destroy Yasuo, well, this Yasuo literally just kept E'ing non stop and tried to even 1v1 me near my own turret. You know, I kept auto-attacking him to proc my passive which would give me lifesteal, I W'ed him for the slow and I even ulted so that I could stay alive and not die but, this Yasuo was still able to absolutely delete me even though I had a ton of armor. So I mean honestly, Yasuo really does need a nerf. He's just so darn strong in the current meta in the top lane. Because I mean look at this way, champions such as Zed and whatnot got some pretty hard nerfs because they too were so darn strong but not only that, Yasuo hasn't even had a nerf for a very long time. I mean I'm not saying he should get nerfed so hard that you know, Yasuo players should just stop playing him and stuff, no, I'm saying some of his abilities should just have a slight nerf made to them. Something like his E having a slightly increased cooldown or his ult doing a bit less damage. I don't know, I just honestly thing Yasuo needs to get nerfed a bit and just balanced out so that he doesn't remain absolutely overpowered in the top lane or even in the mid lane. But that's about it guys, thank you ever so much for taking the time to read this thread, it honestly means a lot.

55 Comments

ChaddyFantome4 votes

Yasuo doesn't need a nerf. Nerfing Yasuo will not fix his problems. it will only discourage people from playing him.

LoLKiru2 votes

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Yasuo doesn't need a nerf. Nerfing Yasuo will not fix his problems. it will only discourage people from playing him.

This, I also can't even find any games where OP gets destroyed by Yasuo, most of his Nasus games are generally well done (for that matter he has 16 wins and 4 losses out of the last 20 games with Nasus)

Am I missing something here? Looked up his games to see what he built to maybe give him some advice (since doing something like building JUST armor against Yasuo won't do much), but I can't find any problems.

Zachawyy3 votes

Maybe that's a good thing then, because there's no point of having something like Ranked in League of Legends if people are just going to rely on playing only and only Yasuo. You know, there ARE other champions out there that people can use and still carry with. They don't just sit there to look pretty.

Nameless Voice4 votes

I despise Yasuo with every fibre of my being, but agree that nerfing will not fix his problems. His kit is toxic - he has so many tools to negate other champions' ability to make plays that beating him depends more on which champion you are playing against him than anything else.

Nerfing him won't fix that. (Though I'd be happy with people being discouraged from playing him.)

Madra4 votes

If I was in charge of new champions at Riot, and one of my underlings came to me with a champion proposal that included "Doubled Crit Chance" I would have fired him on the spot. Oh, but his passive includes a shield, too! 15 seconds of bonus armor penetration? What buff in LoL lasts 15 seconds? The concept is just nauseating. Yasuo's kit is way too stacked; and everybody knows it.

Zachawyy1 votes

Thank you! Finally, someone who understands me.

Elite4Runner2 votes

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If I was in charge of new champions at Riot, and one of my underlings came to me with a champion proposal that included "Doubled Crit Chance" I would have fired him on the spot. Oh, but his passive includes a shield, too! 15 seconds of bonus armor penetration? What buff in LoL lasts 15 seconds? The concept is just nauseating. Yasuo's kit is way too stacked; and everybody knows it.

I personally love Yasuo, so I don't really want to see him changed, but just to further your point.

No resource Extremely low cooldowns that scale with attack speed and level. His windwall can be reactionary cast to block ALL PROJECTILES Q is a pass-through skillshot that is an auto attack reset, and can apply on-hit effects at a range, and a knock-up. E can be stacked to apply greater damage, and can be used to pass through terrain. Ult essentially creates a chained knock-up that can be used on the WHOLE TEAM, and can be activated from a fairly long range in coordination from ally knock-ups. Q can be cast during ult.

BUT, .. Yasuo does have one of the most challenging kits to master. Missing a Q, using E on the wrong enemy, ulting at the wrong time, ... are all quick tickets to death.

Zachawyy1 votes

Wait, just to clarify, are you saying you would like a nerf being made to Yasuo?

ChaddyFantome1 votes

No. He is saying that, like I have been saying, the problem with Yasuo is his inherent design. he has to much shit on him. A straight nerf wouldn't fix him. He needs some kind of rework.

ChaddyFantome3 votes

Listen dude. Yasuo is one of my most despised champs. I hate him more than sin. he is bullshit. The epitome Of League's growing progression issues in terms of game additions wrapped into one abomination.

But no. Again, Yasuo doesn't need nerfs. They won't fix what is fundamentally wrong with him. All it will do is make him virtually unplayable. Despite still being the cancer that he is, he is actually pretty UP right now. Yasuo is inherently cancer from a design standpoint. Stat changes won't fix this.

Zachawyy2 votes

Then why did Zed nerfed? I mean, I can understand that people must have found him pretty strong on Summoner's Rift and all the other game modes with the new AD item that was released, that is Duskblade of Draktharr. But I mean, all in all, Zed is quite a mechanical and skill-reliant champion. You know it's not like everyone is going to be AS good as people like Bjergsen and Redmercy on Zed and that's because they themselves have actually mastered the mechanics behind the champion over such a long period of time. You know, Bjergsen has been playing Zed ever since what, Season 3, Season 2?

Elite4Runner1 votes

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Then why did Zed nerfed? I mean, I can understand that people must have found him pretty strong on Summoner's Rift and all the other game modes with the new AD item that was released, that is Duskblade of Draktharr. But I mean, all in all, Zed is quite a mechanical and skill-reliant champion. You know it's not like everyone is going to be AS good as people like Bjergsen and Redmercy on Zed and that's because they themselves have actually mastered the mechanics behind the champion over such a long period of time. You know, Bjergsen has been playing Zed ever since what, Season 3, Season 2?

Zed was nerfed because item 3147 was coming out.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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Zed was nerfed because item 3147 was coming out.

Zed got nerfed before it came out. The addition of the item was done to use more as a point mark which to more accurately balance AD assassins around as opposed to just being a new power spike for the champion. Hell, Yasuo can build the thing.

Elite4Runner2 votes

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Zed got nerfed before it came out. The addition of the item was done to use more as a point mark which to more accurately balance AD assassins around as opposed to just being a new power spike for the champion. Hell, Yasuo can build the thing.

So you think Riot didn't know item 3147 was about to come out lol? There are several examples of where Riot has nerfed or buffed a champion because of another nerf or buff to an item that was planned to come out in the following patch. You're correct about this item being intended to balance AD assassins but if Zed didn't receive this nerf, Duskblade would have been a greater benefit to him than it was to other AD assassins.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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So you think Riot didn't know item 3147 was about to come out lol? There are several examples of where Riot has nerfed or buffed a champion because of another nerf or buff to an item that was planned to come out in the following patch. You're correct about this item being intended to balance AD assassins but if Zed didn't receive this nerf, Duskblade would have been a greater benefit to him than it was to other AD assassins.

Zed isn't the only one that item is intended for, let alone the only one that gets it. The item is actually far more popular on burst bruisers.

The Zed nerf wasn't even a stat one. It was a frame data nerf. Zed nerfs were due to Riot seeing him needing one and specifically stated and demonstated that the item was being introduced to be used as a means to more roundly balance the class as a whole, which is why Talon and others also got nerfs as well.

And again, Yasuo can and does build it too.

Sigh... I thought the DuskBlade wanking was over? the item is overrated.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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Then why did Zed nerfed? I mean, I can understand that people must have found him pretty strong on Summoner's Rift and all the other game modes with the new AD item that was released, that is Duskblade of Draktharr. But I mean, all in all, Zed is quite a mechanical and skill-reliant champion. You know it's not like everyone is going to be AS good as people like Bjergsen and Redmercy on Zed and that's because they themselves have actually mastered the mechanics behind the champion over such a long period of time. You know, Bjergsen has been playing Zed ever since what, Season 3, Season 2?

Because Zed's kit all things considered is actually very fair and balanced from a design stand point, has many evident strengths and weaknesses. Zed just has a moderate amount of tacked on power.

What makes Zed so powerful and reliable is and has always been his powerful lane phase. With energy, he is essentially resourceless and his spells allow him to essentially be an AD mage that never runs oom during that time, with mobility and the safety that comes with it. Cutting down on his tacked on free stats will make sure to make this fringed aspect of him less oppressive thus resolving the issue.

Zachawyy1 votes

I see. Well, thanks for clearing that up for me. I've been wondering for a while now why he got nerfed but now I know so thank you for that. Also, do you know by any chance how you block people on here? There's this one negative person that I don't want to hear from anymore whatsoever.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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I see. Well, thanks for clearing that up for me. I've been wondering for a while now why he got nerfed but now I know so thank you for that. Also, do you know by any chance how you block people on here? There's this one negative person that I don't want to hear from anymore whatsoever.

Im not here that often, so sorry . i dont know how. :/ Glad I was helpful ! ;P

Quick tip tho. You might wanna space your paragraphs. No one likes walls of text. :x

Zachawyy2 votes

Same here but it's okay, no worries :)

Murkish1 votes

they should make him unplayable

archerno12 votes

Yasuo needs buff not nerf.... Maybe increase damage of his ulti and make his shield stronger. Right now he just get beasted by everyone.

Zachawyy5 votes

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I GOT "BEASTED" BY A BRONZE 4 YASUO TODAY AND THE ONLY ITEMS HE HAD WAS STATIK SHIV AND A PICK AXE.

LoLKiru2 votes

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I GOT "BEASTED" BY A BRONZE 4 YASUO TODAY AND THE ONLY ITEMS HE HAD WAS STATIK SHIV AND A PICK AXE.

(So I totally realized I had to refresh OP.GG to see the most recent game you played)

You have 1 death in that game; Meanwhile Yasuo has 9 kills, what that tells me is that he possibly killed you (either that or someone else did; with or without assistance, Nasus early game isn't exactly the greatest thing in the world) and then roamed for all of his other kills.

Given the lack of information I can't really tell you much (since I have no idea what stats you or Yasuo had, or how the matchup even played out; since its fairly easy for Yasuo to outplay someone)

Zachawyy3 votes

People want Yasuo buffed even though he's frickin darn strong in the current meta. Champions such as Zed and whatnot get nerfed even though they're much more mechanical. You tell me one good reason why Yasuo shouldn't get a nerf apart from the fact that it would apparently "discourage" people from playing him.

archerno13 votes

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People want Yasuo buffed even though he's frickin darn strong in the current meta. Champions such as Zed and whatnot get nerfed even though they're much more mechanical. You tell me one good reason why Yasuo shouldn't get a nerf apart from the fact that it would apparently "discourage" people from playing him.

But issue is, Yasuo isnt strong in current meta. Current meta is about tanks that deal damage like Poppy, Ekko, Akali. Even Diana,Gragas. Do you know what Sunfire Cape+ Iceborn do to Yasuo? They destroy him. Sunfire removes Yasuo shield immediately, Yasuo cant come close to CS. Anything can counter him. Ahri, Zed, Azir, Fizz,Lux, Malzahar,Annie, Heimerdinger, Leblanc, Lulu. Hell if someone picks Yasuo mid u can pick Riven, Jarvan, Pantheon, Ekko, Irelia, Kayle, Jayce, Olaf, Wukong. There is nothing he can do about it. Yasuo top? Malphite, Poppy, Ekko, Rammus, Zac, Mundo, Riven, Kench, Akali, Diana... Hell u can pick Soraka and rush Sunfire cape and Iceborn and Yasuo wont be able to do shit against u. I even watched on stream Shaco tank destroy Yasuo.

Your problem in that game wasnt Yasuo. Your problem was 97 CS in 27 mins. When u should have 220+. If u check profile of that Yasuo, u will see that game before he got destroyed, almost 20 deaths, by Garen who rushed Sunfire Cape.

Elite4Runner1 votes

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But issue is, Yasuo isnt strong in current meta. Current meta is about tanks that deal damage like Poppy, Ekko, Akali. Even Diana,Gragas. Do you know what Sunfire Cape+ Iceborn do to Yasuo? They destroy him. Sunfire removes Yasuo shield immediately, Yasuo cant come close to CS. Anything can counter him. Ahri, Zed, Azir, Fizz,Lux, Malzahar,Annie, Heimerdinger, Leblanc, Lulu. Hell if someone picks Yasuo mid u can pick Riven, Jarvan, Pantheon, Ekko, Irelia, Kayle, Jayce, Olaf, Wukong. There is nothing he can do about it. Yasuo top? Malphite, Poppy, Ekko, Rammus, Zac, Mundo, Riven, Kench, Akali, Diana... Hell u can pick Soraka and rush Sunfire cape and Iceborn and Yasuo wont be able to do shit against u. I even watched on stream Shaco tank destroy Yasuo.

Don't forget item 3075

archerno11 votes

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Don't forget item 3075

Thats only if u wanna humiliate him and let him kill himself. Sunfire and Iceborn are enough to make Yasuo useless making game 5v4.

Elite4Runner2 votes

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Thats only if u wanna humiliate him and let him kill himself. Sunfire and Iceborn are enough to make Yasuo useless making game 5v4.

Right, who would want that! lol

But even with Sunfire and Iceborn, he can poke with his 3rd Q, or engage, damage, then disengage without taking much damage from Sunfire and potentially avoid getting auto attacked by with your Iceborn. With Thornmail, at best he can't even damage you without hurting himself, with the exception of E, which isn't effective even with full AP. But hey, they are all fairly cheap items, why not get all three?

Malix Farwin1 votes

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Don't forget item 3075

with his self healing and the nerf to thornmail ontop of armor pen, unlikely that thormail will do anything really.

AlwaysByMySide2 votes

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with his self healing and the nerf to thornmail ontop of armor pen, unlikely that thormail will do anything really.

Have you considered attacking him as well, rather than just letting him beat on you while you hope he kills himself?

Zachawyy3 votes

Yasuo IS strong in the current meta and you KNOW it. You're just finding it hard to believe and that's understandable, given that you think you know every single thing about every single champion in the game.

Elite4Runner1 votes

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Yasuo IS strong in the current meta and you KNOW it. You're just finding it hard to believe and that's understandable, given that you think you know every single thing about every single champion in the game.

What is wrong with a champion being strong in the current meta? Someone is bound to be strong, if not him, you will find someone else to complain about.

And the second half of your last sentence just sounds petty. People don't agree with you, there isn't anything wrong with that, and there is nothing wrong with you having an opinion on this either. Yes, Yasuo is strong, but he is strong in the way he was designed to be. There are plenty of counter picks and there are often many chances to outplay him.

Gormatadon2 votes

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archerno11 votes

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Okay Yasuo is really strong in this meta. He could be 0/9 and buy his I.E. item 3031 and Statikk Shiv, then go practically 1v5. considering the fact that Yasuo is the easiest champion to get pentas with, i'd say he needs nerfed. Like at least disable the I.E. item 3031 passive on him and maybe he'll be slightly bearable. Besides he's had his two seasons of being the easy no skill penta farm, let someone else be useful.

In what universe is Yasuo easiest to get penta with? I doubt he is even in top 10 penta kills champs. Kata, Yi, most adcs or champs with resets like Akali would all be above him.

Zachawyy1 votes

I agree.

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

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People want Yasuo buffed even though he's frickin darn strong in the current meta. Champions such as Zed and whatnot get nerfed even though they're much more mechanical. You tell me one good reason why Yasuo shouldn't get a nerf apart from the fact that it would apparently "discourage" people from playing him.

Sure thing. He's not overpowered.

Get over it.

Zachawyy1 votes

No, I came here to post my ideas on how I'd like Yasuo to be nerfed. I didn't come here to read your negative criticism. I mean if you had constructed your input about this matter in a much more calm and professional manner then I would've been more than willing to read to your idea(s). However, you did no such thing and so from this point on, I'm not going to read or even REPLY to any more of your responses.

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

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No, I came here to post my ideas on how I'd like Yasuo to be nerfed. I didn't come here to read your negative criticism. I mean if you had constructed your input about this matter in a much more calm and professional manner then I would've been more than willing to read to your idea(s). However, you did no such thing and so from this point on, I'm not going to read or even REPLY to any more of your responses.

You know someone's so upset they're literally crying when they whine about professionalism (as if I was at work, lol) on a public forum and moan about me apparently being mean. It's especially ironic when they seem to think that my post wasn't calm.

Yasuo isn't overpowered, and you've provided nothing more but anecdotal evidence of you getting ass stomped by a Yasuo as evidence that he is. The burden of proof is on you to prove he's OP, and you haven't done that. Though, he isn't really weak either. He's fine, both mid and top lane.

http://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Top

Yasuo has an experienced playerbase, yet maintains a middling win rate.

He's fine.

Elite4Runner2 votes

Actually, I wont say that I disagree with you, but I will say that I don't agree with your match up. Nasus's scales much slower than Yasuo, and he requires the ability to get in close, keep an enemy close, and deal a combination of DOT and land his massive Qs. Otherwise he is designed to absorb damage and heal himself with his lifesteal. Yasuo is all about mobility and damage output. He scales up much faster with his passive granting double critical strike chance. Tossing in attack speed, effective. Crit and raw damage, effective, Or not focusing on critical strike at all and going for damage and armor pen, effective. Basically, he dumps all over Nasus because, .. he is designed to.

Zachawyy1 votes

"Basically, he dumps all over Nasus because, .. he is designed to." That just makes him broken and I'm sure the last thing people would want to deal with, especially in Ranked or so, is broken champions.

fifik3332 votes

Yasuo needs nerf quickly. It can discourage players, because yasuo is noobest champ for me. U need just E Q and you can be death. If youre not dead, u can ulti and youre dead 100%. And his passive is great **** too.

Zachawyy1 votes

This was an old post lmao. I have no problem dealing with a Yasuo from an enemy team. All you need to do to prevent a Yasuo from snowballing a game is hard CC and to pretty much try and shut him down as much as you can early game. Granted, there are some Yasuo's out there than can play Yasuo the way you would play Fizz, in terms of, if a Fizz was behind in the laning phase against a champion such as Ryze, Diana, Lissandra etc. it can still come back in the game. If anything, out of all champions, Fizz is one of the champions that you don't ever wanna make consistent mistakes against.

But going back to what I was saying about being able to prevent a Yasuo from snowballing a game just by bringing hard CC, even a simple Annie stun can mess a Yasuo up slightly. Yasuo is just all about high damage output as well as high mobility. If a Yasuo doesn't have any creeps around him and he's getting CC'ed constantly in a 1v1 scenario with a Nautilus, you can just collapse on that Yasuo and slay him lmao.

I made this thread 8 months ago because I felt that Yasuo was just too much. I thought that he was busted, I thought that he was too strong in the meta back then but really, the main reason why I felt all of that was because I had a really bad game against a Yasuo as Nasus. Now, I used to main Nasus hardcore back then. Like legit, anytime I was able to get hold of top lane, I would just instahover/instalock Nasus. Throughout the thread, I did go on to mention that, yeah, if a Nasus is able to get at least 300 stacks in 10 minutes, then he would be able to actually 1v1 an enemy Yasuo. The thing is, back then, I never considered myself to be the best Nasus ever. If I was, I wouldn't be Silver 5 this very day. The point I was trying to make is that, back then, I failed to sometimes get the right amount of stacks at a specific time in a game and there was of course that one game where I laned against a Yasuo who was most likely a good Yasuo and I just kept missing stacks that game, I kept using my E frequently when I wasn't supposed to and well, I guess I just played really badly as Nasus against that Yasuo that game and because of that, that's what lead me to create this thread 8 months ago.

To be honest, Yasuo really isn't "busted" or whatever. He's perfectly fine right now. Yeah, I mean, he did get a few nerfs here and there regarding Tank Yasuo, however, I'm a bit of a Yasuo main. I have him as my second highest played. Over time though, I have realized that, it's not really hard to stop a Yasuo from "popping off". You just need a team comp that can provide a decent amount of CC, you need to try and see if you can shut him down as much as you can early game because that'll help keep him behind from getting core items such as PD and IE. If you get something like a Tryndamere on your team then that's really good because, that Tryndamere can split-push as always and create a sort of distraction for those Yasuo players out there who like to split-push themselves and then, all you'd have to do to win the game is just have that Tryndamere join your team again, win 5v4's and just take it from there really but that's just one example.

Before I end off this post, I just wanted to comment on the part where you said "U need just E Q and you can be death." along with "If youre not dead, u can ulti and youre dead 100%." - Regarding Yasuo's EQ combo, first off, his Q's tornado timer has an expected time to run out. It's not going to stay up for a good 20 seconds or so. Secondly, in the early game, Yasuo's EQ combo doesn't exactly always kill someone off. Maybe with ignite, yeah, however, if your enemy laner is smart enough to bring a summoner such as Exhaust, that would bring additional pressure to the lane and also, it would help prevent that Yasuo from doing anything extra after ulting. Like I said before, Yasuo is primarily all about dealing high damage output alongside with high mobility. If a Yasuo player fails to meet both of those criteria, they're either just going to be a) useless and b) completely just feeding their asses off. The part where you said "If youre not dead, u can ulti and youre dead 100%." is what intrigued me. After the few nerfs Yasuo last received, his ult now deals damage based off of Critical Strikes, not Armor Pen. If you're a Yasuo player who likes to build tanky, whether it's in the top lane or in fact the mid lane, you won't be dealing as much damage from your ult if you're building items such as Triforce, Steraks etc. Yeah, those kinds of items will give you the extra sort of tankier, defensive stats, however, I have seen a couple of Yasuo's here and there build those sort of items specifically in the mid lane really early but that's just what I've seen.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

So you got shit on in one game of blind pick and therefore Yasuo is oP?

Bullshit.

Zachawyy1 votes

I've said this a couple of times now, this was an OLD post that I made 8 months ago. I never had Yasuo as my second highest played back then. Literally, you need to understand that, what I feel about Yasuo right now in the current meta is completely different to what I said about him in this post. Yeah, okay, I put my hands in the air. I had one bad game against a Yasuo that game and I thought he was a bit too strong but again, that was back then. It's like, if I went up against an enemy Yasuo now and they did really really well then I know it's because of good mechanics and whatnot. I don't think Yasuo is op though, so you need to really think before you speak.

SSrikeShadow1 votes

He needs a nerf at least to his laning phase. His dash needs a higher cdr, his windwall needs to be nerfed, or his passive shield needs to be a lot weaker. Perhaps just make him use mana so he can't spam his abilities so often w/o cost. In lane his dash is cancer and in teamfights his windwall is cancer. He's good in both and one needs to be nerfed.

Zachawyy1 votes

I personally don't think that he needs a nerf whatsoever to his laning phase because, if I remember correctly, the last time Riot gave him a couple of nerfs here and there, it was mainly to sort of make him a less of a threat mid-to-late game I believe or just late-game in general and what they did was, they reduced some of his Attack Speed per level but, they either kept his base Attack Speed the same or just increased it a bit. I can't remember the exact details but I know that, these nerfs happened around the time when Tank Yasuo was a big issue.

Regarding his dash needing a higher CDR, I think that would be nice. His dash already has a fairly high CD for whenever you dash to a particular minion and it would be nice to be able to dash back on the same exact minion a bit quicker because currently, you have to wait what, 20 seconds at best just to dash back on the same minion? Like, that's not what Yasuo was designed for, in my opinion at least. You know, one of Yasuo's biggest strengths is having really good mobility when there are creeps around and that's what he needs to have. If you don't have any creeps around you, you're going to be in a very vulnerable position, to the point where you can easily get collapsed, easily get CC'ed on and that's just what prevents a Yasuo from performing really well for their team.

In terms of his windwall, I see no issue with it other than the fact that, for ranged sort of champions it can be somewhat difficult to play around, simply because if you're wanting to proc an enemy Yasuo's shield, you're not able to because of his windwall being up and your auto attack being ranged, if you're trying to throw out a snare, a slow, whatever, you're still not able to at times because of his windwall being a counter to that. But that's just it you see, a lot of champions within the whole of League of Legends needs that one particular defensive ability to be able to do simple things like sustaining in the laning phase, helping in teamfights, contesting Baron attempts etc etc.

For his passive shield, I don't exactly know how much damage his shield can protect him from but I just know that, it is pretty helpful for Yasuo players out there to be able to have that shield up for whenever they need to it because, let's say for example, you're playing Yasuo, you have a Baron buff on you and you need to back asap because you're at like 400 or so health and someone's trying to kill you already, that passive shield is really going to help because even when it procs the minute someone hits you, you won't die or anything because the shield will actually absorb some of the damage. Being in a clutch situation with something like your W being on a fairly high CD, your only other alternative of surviving would be your passive shield. I mean you could just dash away but that's only if you have creeps around you and you can't flash away if you've only just used it 30 seconds ago.

In addition, wanting Yasuo to use mana so that he can't spam his abilities so often without cost is like saying, Camille should NOT use mana whatsoever so that she can be way more busted than she already is right now on the PBE. That's how ridiculously absurd that sounds in my opinion. Yasuo's a fighter. He's all about high. damage. output along with high. mobility. How do you expect a Yasuo to be able to deal high amounts of damage while still being able to be really really mobile at the same time? Would you want to see new and completely crazy build trending for Yasuo players across the world? Like, we're talking, Moby boots, Aether Wisp, Ardent Censor, Youmuu's etc.

Last but not least, I wanna comment on one more thing. Yasuo's dash is only somewhat cancer when you don't have a team comp that can provide a lot of hard CC. An ideal, simple team comp to have that can prevent an enemy Yasuo from becoming such a threat in a game would be; Darius top, Amumu jungle, Annie mid, Caitlyn adc and Alistar support. With that sort of team comp, not only would it be able to provide a really good amount of hard CC but it would also mean there would be some good catch potential, some good zoning potential. Yknow, with a Darius and an Amumu in the middle of a fight, if an enemy team wasn't smart, they would be focusing those two in particular. Then you'd have the Alistar knock up followed up with the Caitlyn and Annie sitting on the backline, completely destroying the enemy Yasuo. Yknow, with that kind of team comp, a lot can be achieved if your team know what they're doing. And as for his windwall being used in teamfights, dude, that would be irrelevant if you and your team just simply collapse on him/focus him first with decent amounts of CC and just ensure he has no access whatsoever to creeps. That way you can just easily kill him and take it from there really.

In conclusion, I believe I've stated enough to say that Yasuo definitely doesn't need nerfs lmao. The last couple of nerfs that he received were enough and I think he's perfectly stable in the current meta. To be crucially honest, I think the main reason why most people even nowadays think that Yasuo needs whatever nerf is because of the fact that they really don't know how to play around or against an enemy Yasuo and I think that, that's just something they personally need to work on because, if they can work on that soon enough, a couple of months down the line they'll look back and think about the times where they felt Yasuo needed a nerf or two lmao. But that's just all I had to say really.

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Oh My God Yasuo makes me go insane! He is so bullcrap. I can't poke becasue of his passive, I have to back off when he has his tornado, and when he lands his tornado while I am under turret and he is in the middle of the lane he just ZOOOOOMS into my turret and one shots me and takes no turrets damage because he just uses his E to get out fast. I cant land a good skill shot because he just uses his E every single god damn time.

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Looking at your match history it seems like that. You're getting smashed because you're playing adc, which is the squishiest role can play Even mid mages will build some hp.

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