Garen is too OverPowered

They overbuffed a champ that was doing more than fine, again. Riots balance team is a steaming pile of shit.

Bro. Garen is still incredibly weak and easy to beat. Now even being a lot squishier than before.

The only things that changed is that you can't just sit in his E for full duration and laugh it off.

Funny enough he is quite weak early and drops off massively around level 11 to 12 compared to what he could do before.

It is literally this easy... - DO.NOT.STAND.IN.THE.SPIN.

Current garen is less powerful against semi-burst opponent with sustained-mobility. Eg: Udyr and Fiora. His defense technically is destroyed here. Previously, on first 0.75 second, you have over 2.2x your effective health and with how DR works, it means also more effective healing value in that burst moment. But now, you merely only got about 1.6x effective health (including the shield) and also less healing value. There is the cap armor reduction altho probably may ignored for more agressive players or in faster games. Then his E spin now actually nerfed late if the player doesn't do something. The dependency on attack speed for his E spin means also some crippling effect will affect him more than before. Shredding takes longer as well. Although his multi target damage increased quite significant, his dueling potential is nerfed by loss of that 8%. He is buffed however if the player now build more into damage-fighter instead tank fighter type. Death Dancer, storm razor and Shiv now becomes viable for Garen due to attack speed. It is like Rito wants Garen to be more Darius-ish.

If we are being fair, the changes to garen on the pbe were straight up just criminal, people were getting trinity force rage blade and just q + e'ing anyone that touched him to death atleast because it triggered on hit effects. While i do think he is a little over statted now i dont think his ability changes were enough to make him op, but for those people using conquer on top of it, it just makes garen a real issue for champs with bad low kite kits.

But with all things running pure damage on garen means he is weak to fast burns like brand or ashe that leave him low enough for burst champs to pop him And full tank garen has almost no real all in damage plus running a keystone like ghrasp makes him almost unchanged if not for a fair sized shield on w

What? This is ridiculous, Garen didn't change enough to make him OP. He still has the same weaknesses the only difference now is his laning phase. The only reason he saw a sudden spike in winrate is because his laning phase and match-ups changed, but he is falling back down because its a minor change.

They basically went from E doing basically nothing to E being his main source of damage again like it used to be. He still builds roughly the same build but now he has access to more damage items instead of being forced into the same juggernaut build. You all complain about Garen being slightly stronger, but Darius is way worse if you don't take him out first he can win a teamfight by himself. Garen can't do that, not unless he is very ahead.

Pick a champion that can out sustain him, I know for a fact Mordekaiser can outsustain his E damage with Passive + W and deals more damage than him. Fiora seems like a bad match up for him still, Irelia and Jax don't seem very fun to fight late game. Any ranged champion still shits on him. His match-up with Darius changes now that his R is true damage and he is back to sustained damage, I haven't done this match up yet though. Aatrox if he can land the Q consistently wins this match up. Teemo is always a thorn in Garen's side, depends on how good the Teemo is though. Kayle... hate this match up personally.

Garen is still simple and easy to deal with, easy to gank, easy to kite, easy to CC.

Maybe he will receive a minor nerf, but dont expect too much. He had close to zero winning matchups in high elo and couldnt carry games even when ahead. Now, it seems, he can.

Garen the new scapegoat, cool i will be able to play pantheon.

You can see when Garen uses his Q. You use that to back off a bit until he uses it on a minion. There are 2 champions I hate facing when I'm Garen. and . Both have ways to keep you either off them or let them fight you on their terms.

Mordekaiser's passive with Conqueror is rough because it does a lot of damage and lasts a long time. And Yoricks traps Garen with his W.

Treat Garen Q like Vladimir Passive. Back off when it's up. They may be zoning you, but it's better than dying. You just have to survive laning phase or until your jg ganks you. I know that's rough, but Garen is effectively useless when behind, especially in teamfights if your team positions well enough.