Lulu, Karma and Athene's unholy grail

Nikkav·Jan 4, 2017·2 votes·2,679 views

I miss playing Lulu everywhere. What is her spot atm? What should she be good at? I mean ... I don't think she is REALLY bad, her kit can be useful, but I think she is being outshined by other champions in every role. I have actually no reason to pick her, and it's sad v.v

I know, maybe there's a problem when a champion can go everywhere and do well ( top-mid-sup), but why should I pick a lulu over a karma right now? Is this item the main problem?

Or that item making Karma SO GOOD?

Is it too dangerous to buff Lulu?

9 Comments

DionesusJan 4, 20175 votes

I personally play lulu into divers/assassins. Lulu is literally anti assassin with shield, ult, and polymorph. Karma just can't complete in that department.

NikkavJan 4, 20171 votes

Yes, and being anti assassin should be the strong reason to play her, but now I don't think I save more people with lulu than with karma, maybe because of these new items around. What I'm trying to say is that MAYBE new items put support lulu in a bad spot imho, I don't mean you can't play her, but you can play better ones.

Karma's ability to shield and speed the entire team is way more efficient in teamfighting( she can do it a lot of times actually), athene's now gives her the ability to HEAL, easily, since she can stack it with her q very well, and the laning phase is really strong compared to lulu

SilverSquidJan 4, 20173 votes

Another reason we need an Enchanter update soon. Whenever one of them shines, there is suddenly little to no reason to pick 2-3 others. Even if their kits would be rather enjoyable, the toestepping is a huge problem.

NikkavJan 4, 20171 votes

Yes, you are so right. I didn't thought about this , because I compared only two supports, but if we look at the general picture this is so true.

Elite4RunnerJan 4, 20172 votes

Honestly, the main reason why Karma is "SO GOOD" with Athene's is just because she is an honest mage who is being played as a support because of her utility heavy kit.

If she didn't deal so much base damage, she wouldn't be able to exploit the Bloodcharges in order to heal for so much when she shields.

I think Lulu is still good, and can honestly abuse this item as well, but not quite to the same extent.

I wouldn't mind seeing Lulu get a little buff, personally.

Maximum MordeJan 4, 20172 votes

Lulu is anti diver/assassin. But items like redemption let every support do that, and Janna does the anti-diver better. Karma and Lulu share the damage poke role, but as a support choice Lulu actually competes with Janna, not Karma imo.