100-0 in less than 1s why riot?

stabbycrabs·Aug 30, 2018·29 votes·12,083 views

Bit of a rant i know and i am silver so L2p i also know but why does it seem like every new champ or reworked champ can 100-0 you in 1 second give or take. i just dont get why this would be classed as a fun way to play. more or less whomever can press skills the fastest and has the best ping gets the drop

i dont mind being outskilled and i often am but where i at least have a chance to fight back its a learning process which is fun. Nunu and willump is the latest one.

flame on, but this isnt meant as a troll post. more a this game seems to be designed to blow things up and its losing its appeal for me at least

56 Comments

webstar1995Aug 30, 201822 votes

Kayn took 0.22 seconds to kill me.....he flash Q auto.....2100 damage......OOF

The thigh guyAug 30, 20183 votes

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Kayn took 0.22 seconds to kill me.....he flash Q auto.....2100 damage......OOF

He’s a late game skillshot reliant,hybrid assassin with zero early pressure and no escapes that don’t make his damage irrelevant. Tbh, anytime you die to a kayn 1v1 you made a mistake.

ﬂooAug 31, 20181 votes

He has a skillshot?

KmSneakyAug 31, 20182 votes

Yeah yeah look closely, it's a skillshot with a very "thin" hitbox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HNof4pgNJg

SmallCheeseCakeAug 30, 20183 votes

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Kayn took 0.22 seconds to kill me.....he flash Q auto.....2100 damage......OOF

well if that happened you were doing something wrong earlier...

PremadeWithNunuAug 31, 20181 votes

it should never happen, if you just int 20 kills early you should not die in less than 1s, if you kill all world population you should not die in less than 1s.

CppLAug 31, 20185 votes

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well if that happened you were doing something wrong earlier...

Yea ,he left fountain...

webstar1995Aug 31, 20182 votes

Literally happened in my base lol.....he ran through the wall and flash killed me

OatheSwornAug 31, 20181 votes

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Kayn took 0.22 seconds to kill me.....he flash Q auto.....2100 damage......OOF

I don't think it's possible for Kayn to deal 2100 damage with only Q and AA, especially since it takes longer than 0.22 seconds for the second spin of his Q to activate. He likely used had Duskblade and Stormrazors with the addition of using his W. The fastest way for him to proc would be W>Flash>AA[Duskblade+Stormrazor]>Q--is that how it went?

webstar1995Aug 31, 20184 votes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458466792168226828/485100528603234304/image0.jpg here's proof..... this was earlier in the game before i got rylies. I dont have a snip of the other .22 second kill. I think he got edge of night next though he never built stormrazor

IllabetheAug 31, 20181 votes

4 almost 5 items is NOT early game, and he's definitely fed.

webstar1995Aug 31, 20186 votes

who said it was early game......

OatheSwornAug 31, 20181 votes

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458466792168226828/485100528603234304/image0.jpg here's proof..... this was earlier in the game before i got rylies. I dont have a snip of the other .22 second kill. I think he got edge of night next though he never built stormrazor

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Kayn took 0.22 seconds to kill me.....he flash Q auto.....2100 damage......OOF

You said that he dealt 2,100 damage in 0.22 seconds. I don't think 1,584 is 2,100. As for the damage--yes, that's quite a bit, but that's just League nowadays.

webstar1995Sep 4, 20181 votes

Yea the whole reason for this was he did it twice in the same game. Later in the game he did 2100 in .22 sec

OatheSwornSep 4, 20181 votes

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Yea the whole reason for this was he did it twice in the same game. Later in the game he did 2100 in .22 sec

0.22 seconds twice? That's an oddly specific number.. I can't even imagine the chances of having that exact time twice--in the same game, no less.

webstar1995Sep 7, 20181 votes

I looked at the cast times for the moves and its more than .22 maybe it was bugged.....it was under a second tho

JamareeAug 30, 201810 votes

Because long ago, fights used to take longer, far longer, it would be common that after the squishes were dead, the beefy champions would stand around hitting each other with limp noodles for damage, fights lasting ages, which people didn't like, so damage was slowly ramped up to the point we have today.

webstar1995Aug 30, 20182 votes

YES YES YES thank you for saying this. Tank meta was very annoying at times. Whoever got a Taric won for a while.

RedCycloneAug 30, 20187 votes

You act like it's only black and white, as if the only ways it could be done is if teamfights last 3 seconds or they have to go on for over 90 seconds

Back then it was too slow, now it's way too fast

JamareeAug 30, 20183 votes

I'm just saying people complained about it. To each their own.

PremadeWithNunuAug 31, 20184 votes

i love slow fights, at least i can see what is going on and who to focus and what to do. Right now i just kills omeone in 1s or die in 1s if you blink while teamfight is on you will miss 50% of it.

JamareeAug 31, 20181 votes

I mean that is more then fine to love slow fights, I'm just saying that people asked for shorter fights.

ArdondAug 31, 20182 votes

I have never seen anyone, on these forums at least, ask for shorter fights. I have seen people ask for shorter games, but not shorter team fights.

AlzonAug 31, 20182 votes

The slower the better. I love me a nice, strategic teamfight.

Moody PAug 30, 20182 votes

objectively this was more enjoyable

JamareeAug 31, 20181 votes

I don’t think that is how objectively works.

Moody PAug 31, 20181 votes

IMO objectively >:)

Handy Sandy Aug 30, 20181 votes

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Because long ago, fights used to take longer, far longer, it would be common that after the squishes were dead, the beefy champions would stand around hitting each other with limp noodles for damage, fights lasting ages, which people didn't like, so damage was slowly ramped up to the point we have today.

feels like this could've been fixed if there was a melee only item that was effective vs other tanks, and only gave certain stats to discourage carries from building it.

x MR x AR x HP does % total hp damage onhit based on your defensive stats

AlzonAug 31, 20181 votes

Interesting...

Death by GlamourAug 30, 20184 votes

sorry but what does this have to do with what the op said ?

JamareeAug 31, 20182 votes

What do you mean it doesn’t? Damage went up because people asked for it to go up.

º Lamb calls ºAug 31, 20185 votes

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What do you mean it doesn’t? Damage went up because people asked for it to go up.

Riot trying to gain more views=/=listening to people who play the game. Never mind the fact that team fights lasting so long hasn't really been a thing in years. Games over the years continued to get shorter, as well as team fights. Even last season with the longer team fights were still significantly quicker than previous long fights. Remember when games lasting a full hour was not unexpected? Eventually a mere 45 minutes was considered a long game, and then 35 minutes was, etc.

I don't know why people insist that the state of the game 5 years ago was something so recent, most of the player base wasn't even here for most of that non-sense.

JamareeAug 31, 20181 votes

I'm not saying it was recent, I'm saying it was asked for.

PremadeWithNunuAug 31, 20182 votes

i much more prefer that state than this trash fiesta of everyone being fucking assassin.

JamareeAug 31, 20181 votes

To each their own.

Wizard BlazeAug 31, 20184 votes

The answer is simple my mortal friend. LC$

Daddy AntsAug 31, 20183 votes

At least Nunu's snowball is a slow moving skillshot.

Champions like Rengar, Kayn, Leblanc, Fizz, Zed can do that with point and clicks.

Nea104Aug 31, 20183 votes

Season 8. It's SEPTEMBER, so it's nothing new. It's just getting worse and worse, and this is nothing new either. They've kept ruining this game for months.

The same people is still in the same spots, so it couldn't be elseway. Untill they won't remove who has proved to be incompetent, they aren't gonna go anywhere.

Shukr4nAug 30, 20182 votes

How can nunu 100-0 outside ulting a squishy that stands all channel?

stabbycrabsAug 30, 20183 votes

snowball in, knocked up followed by an aa followed by the throw snowball things straight into his ult that i cant run away from fast enough =dead

im at roughly 25% hp after the snowballs, level 6-7 he has 2 kills under his belt

Shukr4nAug 30, 20186 votes

It s not 1s. An entire kit to kill a squishy is quite designed.

Jerry SeinfeIdAug 30, 20182 votes

he built full ap. Old nunu woulda oneshot you with ult too then.

ZT XperimentorAug 30, 20182 votes

I'd have to agree this perpetuating damage creep meta has gone on far longer than it should have; there's no skill expression when everyone is either telefragged, stunlocked to death, or nuked from orbit.

TempName54846Aug 31, 20182 votes

last game diana got me in 0,1 sec, late game diana is pretty fun for squishies.

Stray KatAug 31, 20182 votes

As a Diana player - Diana is lowkey broken from 6 onward if she isn't facing a team of tanks, and wasn't spanked into oblivion pre 6. She has deletion power on any squishy on the map as soon as she has an item or two finished, even if she's a bit behind.

The counterplay to it is basically to be aware of Diana, and where she is. Respect that if she gets within Q range and you're a squishy - She's gonna delete you. If you can use Zhonya's, or some other form of untargettability during her initial R, it'll stop her reset(And dodge her Q damage typically) and leave her standing there waiting to die.

Pika FoxAug 31, 20182 votes

None of the recently reworked champs can do this. Akali needs multiple seconds to proc passive x2, R2 has a delay, aatrox doesnt really have burst and most damage is on Q3, nunus damage is in W and R, and R takes 3+s.

TehNACHOAug 31, 20181 votes

In what world is a Nunu 100-0'ing you in less than a second. His kit doesn't even do that much damage, not without a fully charged Ultimate and a pure AP build.

Irelia BotAug 31, 20183 votes

He is exaggerating on the every champ but many of the popular champs often being played currently are killing anything but really tanky targets in under a second or deal enough damage in under a second and a later proc of damage kills them and there is no real counterplay to this with QSS not removing things like zed ult anymore and BV not being an at all attractive item for AD champs.

People see me regularly request BV and GA be reverted and it was because they gave good counter play options to threats that the enemy team might have while not being AD or AP specific.

I also want all of the front loaded items including item 3147 item 3087 item 3095 item 3094 item 3742 and item 3285 to have the same unique passive name so it is not a case of go in auto once and the target is already more than half dead without having to even use abilities.

TehNACHOAug 31, 20181 votes

Okay, why are we dragging Nunu into this though?

I realize Gameplay+ exists now but this is the blatantly dishonest shit that I hate to see on the Boards. I don't even mind the vast overgeneralizations anymore like "many of the popular champs often being played currently are killing anything" since that's just par for the Boards nowadays, but when specific examples like Nunu are implied to be part of the one shot cancer that plagues league, well, no he isn't and we as a community need to call this shit out.

But seeing that this post is at 14 upvotes after making such a stupid comment, I guess my ideals are misplaced.