Aurelion Sol

RedScythe6·Feb 4, 2020·19 votes·10,454 views

I know this is a long time ago but i think Riot should bring back the original W on Aurelion Sol. I used to play the old Aurelion sol and i just always miss it. The way you just sat there throwing stars slowly was satisfying but now its more clunky and weird. What Riot did with the other parts of Aurelion kit were great. Just not the W. Believe me when that W stops YOUR MAIN WEAPON OF OFFENSE goes on cool down making you useless or more vulnerable to engage absolutely no fear from the enemy team (unless you know you have ult, flash, etc). still a sitting duck.

anyone please correct me

20 Comments

NuggetMilkFeb 4, 202010 votes

I was planning to main Sol before they did this change. I haven't touched him since the change. I don't care if he's easier to play or has a higher winrate. I want my fun champion back

DamSonWhUFndThisFeb 4, 20207 votes

Who asked for that shit anyway? They made another DPS/consistent damage champion into another Burst which is not far from assasin.....

VonCesawFeb 4, 20203 votes

But he has to be bad, otherwise the 'fan favorites' don't get to be played in pro play He gets to join the club

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TheAdministratorFeb 4, 20202 votes

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But he has to be bad, otherwise the 'fan favorites' don't get to be played in pro play He gets to join the club

Man, I really miss old Mordekaiser

VonCesawFeb 4, 20201 votes

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Man, I really miss old

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NelsieLisnenFeb 4, 20203 votes

It should at least be made into a toggle when it hits max level, I feel like that would be the best solution, since the change targeted his early game. Riot wanted to make sure Sol wouldn't be able to shove wave in 5 seconds as early as level 1 and then completely ignore his enemy laner. Well, they achieved that but they should at least give Sol his mid/lategame back.

ArfBarkBoofFeb 4, 20201 votes

I mean, that's how it works for Urgot as well. Kind of agreed but I don't know enough about Sol to fully commit to it.

NelsieLisnenFeb 4, 20201 votes

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I mean, that's how it works for Urgot as well. Kind of agreed but I don't know enough about Sol to fully commit to it.

Well, the gist of it is that old Sol could perma push you as early as lvl 1 and barely had to interact with you in lane. His mana was drained a lot faster, however he circumvented that with biscuits, timewarp tonic and manaflow. At lvl 3 he could always have roam priority without being exposed to his laner since he could perma shove under tower and constantly reset. The changes aimed to slow down his perma pushing power, however, they also implemented a lot of baffling changes such as removing his passive movespeed. I don't think Sol can't operate with his current W, however, if you allowed him to max it into a toggle he could scale to be a better DPS mage.

KlydeFrogFeb 5, 20201 votes

So make him do less damage and no free phase rush?

Posui GartFeb 4, 20203 votes

His W lvl5 cooldown (so once Sol gets lvl9) is 2 seconds. Its less than his old cooldown on toggle, and it is no longer cancelled BY A FUCKING KASSADIN'S Q COME ON ITS NOT LIKE HE IS WEAK AGAINST ASOL WITH HIS PASSIVE AND ULT HE COULD ALSO DISABLE MY ENTIRE CHAMPION FOR 4 SECONDS WITH A RANGET POINT-CLICK ABILITY or any other silence/stun/knockup. Infinite W was nice but all the buffs we got to W are enough to compensate.

KlydeFrogFeb 5, 20201 votes

Well said people are dumb and don't realize he actually does more damage now

iiGazeiiFeb 4, 20201 votes

The idea with the change is that now it's impossible to do the W wrong.

Any ASol player worth their salt would tell you that with the old W, you weren't supposed to keep it on all the time in the early game. Your mana is limited. You throw it out there to get a good trade and/or clear the wave, then retract it to conserve mana.

Now the "right" way to use his W is just how it works. The cooldown gets ridiculously low, so you can have nearly 100% uptime by rank 5 anyway, with an added movespeed buff to boot.

The W changes were a good change, they just take some getting used to.

boricCentaur1Feb 4, 20203 votes

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The idea with the change is that now it's impossible to do the W wrong.

Any ASol player worth their salt would tell you that with the old W, you weren't supposed to keep it on all the time in the early game. Your mana is limited. You throw it out there to get a good trade and/or clear the wave, then retract it to conserve mana.

Now the "right" way to use his W is just how it works. The cooldown gets ridiculously low, so you can have nearly 100% uptime by rank 5 anyway, with an added movespeed buff to boot.

The W changes were a good change, they just take some getting used to.

Ummmm have you ever played sol? Since his feels like shit now. Like once you hit mid game and ESPECIALLY late game the cooldown on the w is super noticable and you really can't play the game since you now have to think about the cooldown.

On paper it sounds fine but in game it's not at all. Especially since it has a low cooldown making it feel awkward to use since it feels like you should have it up all the time but you don't and end pressing it many times in a fight. You don't feel like you have control over it.

It feels 100% worst then before like you can't actually believe going from a ability that was a toggle to a ability that goes on cooldown will feel better or similar since they don't. It just feels worst.

Like early game actually feels fine and some parts of mid game. Early game you would retract it many times so yeah getting use to that felt fine but after nope.

If Riot wanted to lower his early roams with the cooldown on w fine but what most people wanted was for it to be a toggle at max rank but it's not even though that would of solve this problem and made most people happy.

Also THE ONLY REASON HE WAS CHANGED WAS TO MAKE HIM EASIER TO BALANCE well guess what he was just fucking nerfed like a patch ago because of the same reasons he was getting nerfed before. So there is actually 0 reason to keep this rework.

IP MasquerenaFeb 4, 20205 votes

And where's the fun in learning then?

The most fun thing about those hard to play champions is learning for yourself what's the good way and what's not. Just being given the answer is lame and takes the fun of learning away.

Plus, did anyone mention he feels clunky?

14daysuspensionkFeb 4, 20201 votes

The new W is somewhat shit as it's probably not as good for teamfights now. But I remember old Aurelion being completele unusable in URF. Anytime I would take even just one fucking auto attack my E would constantly go on a ridiculous 4 second cooldown rendering it useless.

evolvoxFeb 4, 20201 votes

Wish Asol could change his star rotation.

Skia AsteriFeb 4, 20201 votes

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KlydeFrogFeb 5, 20201 votes

Let's see he actually does more damage he gets a free phase rush so why revert him again

FanfukintasticFeb 6, 20201 votes

Why is this post getting downvoted so much?

Mildish GlambinoFeb 20, 20201 votes

I agree. Aurelion Sol has been changed and nerfed so much that I think it'd be reasonable for Riot to give him his old W and passive movement speed on his E. If they did that much, I'm sure all Aurelion Sol mains would be quite happy. The only way to do this is to make sure they hear us!