Stormazer is overpowered. Again???

Legend of the 11·1/9/2020, 11:48:56 PM·23 votes·11,696 views

How can you mess up an item twice in a row? Jhin's winrate just skyrocketed.

34 Comments

Arammus1/10/2020, 12:24:11 AM24 votes

remove slow. done.

adcs begged for an item that gives ad crit and attackspeed for years. let them have it. but fuck that slow.

Yordle Xayah1/10/2020, 6:03:46 AM8 votes

Jhin? Cait is the one who's mostly abusing it, and it's not the entire item, it's the slow you get from your first auto.

Also, I have no idea how to fix it. I'd rather see Cait nerfed rather than the item. Or remove the slow and add a bit more attack speed like 5% or something. Riot doesn't like stats as much as tangible effects though, so not sure what they plan to do.

wolvius1/10/2020, 4:29:00 PM4 votes

Well an item that gives three very useful stats for adc's and also an effect the simultaneously can make it hard to catch an adc while also making it difficult to escape them with a slow strength that is enough to reduce a champ ms below the slow cap (110) is totally fair.

Totally a fair item when its near gold efficient without the 120 bonus damage and crippling slow. Also with static shiv the slow can chain to other targets what counterplay.

If Riot want to keep this item they need to make it more specialised, is it an item for kiting or catching. If its for kitting only make the slow occur when moving towards the owner, if its for catching make it only slow when moving away from the owner like shen Q passing through an enemy.

Metal Janna1/10/2020, 12:52:45 AM4 votes

Top wants to split the bot lane "ok i'll just ward up and then group" See Yasuo and Yuumi coming down the river toward me "nope nevermind not that way" Get sniped by a Jhin who wasn't even visible because he was in the bush on the opposite side of the river from me. Get easily caught because Jhin is The Fast when he crits and Stormrazor always crits. Die because he remains The Fast forever as long as stays in range... which is always because no one outruns The Fast.

Fuck. That. Noise. Stormrazor turns Jhin into Better Ashe, with more reliable engage and even more stick. There should not exist an item that gives a marksman unconditional engage like a long range slow that can't be dodged.

AFilthyCaitMain1/10/2020, 10:59:22 PM3 votes

Increase total cost. Way too cheap imo.

5050BS1/9/2020, 11:50:04 PM3 votes

Stormrazer was buffed?

Also numbers need a week to show any meaningful data.

Illaoi in 9.24 was at 50% win rate top and in 10.1 she is at 53%.

RyzeRework1/10/2020, 2:04:28 PM2 votes

Jhin viable for .5 sec*[sg-shisa]* league boards

The thigh guy1/10/2020, 12:22:48 PM1 votes

It’s almost like Jhin is the burstiest adc in the game in a meta where burst is the ONLY thing that matters.

Hotarµ1/9/2020, 11:53:30 PM1 votes

Jhin's winrate is the same as it's always been; ranging from 50-52% across the board. He's been an incredibly strong pick for a long time, it didn't just spike due to the Stormrazor changes alone.

If anything, the changes to Zeal were more impactful since now he can build IE/RFC/Zeal and be at 100% crit. He can even do IE/Zeal/Zeal if he felt the need, he's just a really good champion at the moment.

Krys Star1/10/2020, 5:59:49 PM1 votes

It's the slow. It needs to be nerfed or removed. 75% slow for 0.5s is absurdly powerful. Even 40% would still be good, or if they want to stay with a 75% slow, make it 0.1s slow.

Daddy Ants1/10/2020, 6:05:54 PM1 votes

Yes, stormrazor is busted.

Trusting1/10/2020, 6:25:07 PM1 votes

i like how... op didnt mention Caitlyn ...

All Skillzzz1/10/2020, 7:03:51 PM1 votes

The slow is the issue, its the same treatment duskblade has, 99% slow on it for .5 seconds was way to powerful, they put it on an insanely cost effective item that gives AD and crit and on a champ like caitlyn or jhin, lets them get their combos off. like jhin can 4th shot slow you with it an then almost instantly land a w without having much chance to miss.

spookdegrace1/10/2020, 9:17:12 PM1 votes

The slow is insane. Adc's now have a free catch ability. With Rapid fire and a stormrazor proc you're basically dead no matter where you are. Remove the slow or severely nerf it imo

QuZeed YT1/10/2020, 10:27:25 PM1 votes

I'm honestly getting cancer when people talk about Jhin when every other adc just does more damage than him except when he's fed

Troll Slaiyer1/10/2020, 10:44:05 PM1 votes

jhin immobile so its fine

GigglesO1/10/2020, 9:52:59 AM1 votes

You mean damage?

Garson2111/10/2020, 9:40:06 AM1 votes

Maybe Stormrazor is a bit to strong and need nerf but huge problem is champions like Cait abuse it,but what riot does?Insted of Nerf Cait together with Kaisa and Xayah they buff varus and Corki to be able fight with them. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS BALANCING THE GAME?WOW! Maybe change ADC class name for AD MAGE because they 2 shot ppls now after this great balancing changes.JZS help us.