He has cc and gap closer, can build full damage no tank due to ult, has passive crit and damage, and has 5 seconds on ult that lead to free tower dives on anyone (including super tanks with armor and or thornmail).
Prove he doesn't need a rework without saying ahything about rank or LCS
Saezio4 votesHe needs a rework because of his nature. He is always really weak because they can't allow him to be viable because he becomes ultra strong.
Ragnaveil1 votesYet lets change his passive to at later points give 50% crit at max fury so he can build 40% cdr and start spinning to win (and also have ult up almost all the time).
Keiaga3 votesHis winrate and playrates not being exceptionally high is all the proof needed that he doesnt need a nerf
Xavanic2 votesHis winrate and playrates not being exceptionally high is all the proof needed that he doesnt need a nerf
that means shit all
Keiaga3 votesIt neans hes statistically and factually not overpowered.
Xavanic1 votesIt neans hes statistically and factually not overpowered.
Analytics are flawed at best, there is so many extra variables that i would never rely on a number on a site to decide if someone is op or not, everyone bitches and bans yasuo but yet he has a 48% winrate, im not saying trynd is op, what im saying is taking some numbers off a website and saying said champ is op is bullshit, jax is an example of this, same with renekton, their both insanely potent and frustrating to play against right now because of SoS, but neither has a fairly decent winrate due to the META not really favoring diver's, this is why their win rates are meh....once we enter a meta that favors fighters/skirmishers....there is a good chance trynd will become op
Keiaga3 votesYasuo's play/ban rate being skyhigh is balanced out by his winrates mid-range to low.
Meanwhile Tryndamere's play/ban rates are pretty middle-of-the-road while his winrates are also low.
It's a much wiser choice to go by statistics rather than the general feeling of what "everyone is bitching about"
On a side note, the meta changes based on the most optimal strategy of winning. If jax and renekton were as "potent" as you're saying, they'd have a higher winrate and the meta would have shifted around them by now.
Xavanic1 votesYasuo's play/ban rate being skyhigh is balanced out by his winrates mid-range to low.
Meanwhile Tryndamere's play/ban rates are pretty middle-of-the-road while his winrates are also low.
It's a much wiser choice to go by statistics rather than the general feeling of what "everyone is bitching about"
On a side note, the meta changes based on the most optimal strategy of winning. If jax and renekton were as "potent" as you're saying, they'd have a higher winrate and the meta would have shifted around them by now.
see that's the thing, the meta isn't focused on diver's and since only 2 of them are good, it won't shift to them, rn the meta is focused on junglers, neither of which are decent at jungling (maybe jax but every time i see him in the jungle he just feeds) since junglers impact the game far more then any other role, if the meta ever favors top/renek/jax 101% they WILL get nerfed, but until junglers are addressed most champs won't be, another good example is ahri, she has always had a high pick rate and lately her winrate is fluctuating between 52-53% yet no one can admit she is op...
Xintium1 votesAnalytics are flawed at best
No, they are not.
If you truly think that (outside of LoL and the specific case discussed here), you likely have no background in statistics and/or probability theory (note: not the dumbed-down version which is studied pre-college). Depending on your mathematical expertise, you may (or may not) be able to fully understand all the relevant theory beyond what I have written.
there is so many extra variables that i would never rely on a number on a site to decide if someone is op or not
If that number is a weak metric like WinRate, I wouldn't either.
Zlera1 votesIgnite. 3 second into his ult, ignite him. Getting a stopwatch is another way. CC is his biggest threat, specially if he ults. While I agree, he may need some kind of slight adjustment, he IS beatable.
5or6stores1 votesTryndamere is a cancer design, but there's no way to "prove" it one way or the other.
Xavanic1 votesI legit just warwick into him, if he's at the point where he needs to ult, my passive keeps me alive, allowing me to outheal his dmg when combined with my E (also rush randuins/tabi)
Sona Ping1 votesHe has cc and gap closer, can build full damage no tank due to ult, has passive crit and damage, and has 5 seconds on ult that lead to free tower dives on anyone (including super tanks with armor and or thornmail).
Prove he doesn't need a rework without saying ahything about rank or LCS
"He has a kit. Prove to me he needs doesn't need to have his performance reduced without bringing up examples of his performance." Kinda hard to have a productive thread when those are the "rules" for it.
In that last game you keep bringing up where, quote
I played mundo with ult and thornmail under tower against a trynd. Guess what, he can still go under tower and tank tower and kill me at full health with ult on, his ult blocks turret shots thats the problem.
that game doesn't show that trynd needs a rework or hard nerf when you were fighting and dying when you were not full health, did not have 
, were not ulting, were not under tower, and Tryndamere didn't even need to ult, so no turret shots were blocked.
It doesn't show that he needs nerfs because the issues of falling behind very early, taking fights against ahead champions, fighting without ult against a champion who does, chunking themselves out and fighting 
against 
with only 
are not Tryndamere dependent.
Elfmon1 votesI'm talking about later in the game Im more peeved with an urgot let being worthless and me dying even tho it is a suppression, i can understand undo but argot with a suppression on his ultimate is not acceptable for him to let through
PhearBunny1 votesas an individual he is broken. But its a team game, and he doesnt fit into team compositions.
He's just a Jax without any team fight potential.
Malix Farwin1 votesSure i can prove it to you:
Your Elo: Bronze 2
Tryndamere WR: 49%
The reason he is good in bronze is because you guys have no macro.
Elfmon1 votesIm silver now and he is still dumb
Failmageddon1 votesI find it interesting the people commenting he's fine as is, when I see posts from back when Kayle's R got changed to prevent her being allowed to attack while invulnerable and saw things like
"But is needed to make her balanced, it's not healthy that her alone can make herself invulnerable and melt everyone without counterplay"
"I'm gonna be real with you, they wanted kayle to keep her iconic ultimate but not be unfun to play against because of it."
Personally, my gripe with Tryndamere's ult is the fact that it is inevitable. He can push it no matter what. If it worked like other abilities and was unavailable when suppressed etc, I'd be much more happy with it. But cc'ing him to just have him go "Nope!" and then have to find a way to cc him for 5s when he can 3 shot somebody? Admittedly not a fan.
Tr4shB4NSYST3M1 votesTrynd is cancer because of the ult, nothing else. IMO if aatrox can lose his revive they can rework trynds ult.
Malix Farwin1 votesTrynd is cancer because of the ult, nothing else. IMO if aatrox can lose his revive they can rework trynds ult.
Thats fine but expect him to get buffed