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Why Is There No Teambuilder For Ranked?

myg0t Draxxus··2 votes·846 views

I'm not saying full Teambuilder the way it's implemented for normals. But at least joined ranked as your selected position and be locked into it. Once everyone is grouped, then the draft starts but you are still locked into your selected position. Makes light years more sense to do it this way. Guess that's why it isn't implemented.

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Acidic Puddle3 votes

Your rank is to show your overall skill not just a single lane.

YoungFishFillet3 votes

Exactly. I was going to say the same. Its supposed to measure your overall skill including all 5 positions and not just one single lane

Acidic Puddle1 votes

I used to think that always getting top, my main, would be best, but now i am a mid main. Draft allows you to progress as a player and get better player. It is nice to see someone else understands.

Gromble1 votes

well that's great because in order to get good at every role you'd have to play at the very least like 500 hours of game play. If Riot wants the game to be like a sport then they need to let people specialize in positions. Make the goal keeper play forward, that'll work!

Acidic Puddle1 votes

If the goalkeeper played forward it would allow him to understand what they are doing and allow him to improve as goalkeeper. So yes it would be a good idea.

Gromble1 votes

lol when they are a kid, yes that's good. In a professional match that means something it would be enough to get a coach fired for incompetence.

Acidic Puddle1 votes

Yes and I don't see Doublelift playing mid in pro matches.

myg0t Draxxus1 votes

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Your rank is to show your overall skill not just a single lane.

I'm sorry but that argument is absurd. You don't see Wayne Gretzky playing goalie to "measure" his skill. You see him doing what he is good at. If you can't beat me at my best role with yours then you didn't deserve to win in the first place.

Acidic Puddle1 votes

Nor do you see Doublelift for mid, but #1: learning other lanes helps you understand the game as a whole #2: We are not professionals so there is no need to stay in one role.

Tsunday1 votes

They already talked about implementing this the same way you suggested in the future

disregardable1 votes

Personally, I think it's too limiting. You will only see 100% meta comps 90% of the time.

Raptamei1 votes

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Personally, I think it's too limiting. You will only see 100% meta comps 90% of the time.

As opposed to 90% of the time because the remaining 10% is because someone is upset and troll picks.

disregardable1 votes

Not really. A lot of the time unmeta comps just come about from everyone bringing a champion they're good with. You get 3 marksman, ADC Malzahar, Ahri top+LB Mid, Kalista+Yasuo bot, etc. The kind of shit you kick from teambuilder.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Because team leaders can bully people into making hardline meta picks, even though I have seen success with so many non-meta picks in draft (one ranked game my teammate went AD Malzahar jg, we all agreed to report him until he ended the game 21/3)

Also, mirror picks are a flaw in the system and should be avoid at all costs, especially in ranked.

Delphinium1 votes

I wanted ARAM ranked tho D:

but teambuild ranked is preferred over drafted ranked.

Gromble1 votes

I can't wait for this to be made. Its absurd that you have to play so much to get ip for champions, then you don't even get to play that champion in a 40 freaking minute match. There is nothing that takes you out of playing a game then to be pigeon holed into a position you don't want to play.

As to the criticisms for this, they make me lolz and get even more excited for it. "Oh noes! no more non meta picks!" Oh how I will miss the hipsters playing urgot top lane and getting smashed 0-8. Won't we all miss that? Then theres the "get gud at everyfing!" point which is ridiculous because most people can't spend 50 hours at every single champ and position.

The meta is good and if Riot wants to make this game more of a sport they will allow people to specialize in positions.

SmokingPuffin1 votes

Riot is looking into a ranked team builder.

Queue by role has a significant problem with number of players queued for support and, to a lesser extent, jungle. Team builder for normals tries to mitigate this by generating really terrible matchups; it's common in team builder games for diamonds and silvers to be playing in the same game. For ranked, that won't fly, you're looking for a maximum of 2 divisions delta of MMR.

This could easily result in 30 minute queues for popular roles, especially at the high and low ends of the player pool.

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