Boards›Gameplay

AD Crit Katarina

Sþinny Shìt·Mar 13, 2018·3 votes·2,005 views

Hi everyone,

Trying to discuss a topic that is kinda not accepted by any player i meet, for some reason people only stick with what is said in the champ infos (magic damage ? build AP pls) please people open yourselves to new possibilities lol !

I'm a Katarina main (yes one trick ok) & i was pretty annoyed by the fact that, when fed i almost only had to E in & R to get multikills, if not only with daggers lol. So i decided to get some challenge going & i became AD crit katarina main, for about 3 months now i have been playing her with no AP. & i gotta say she is actually very powerful.

The linked video is an example of how she was working before the runes reforged. i started playing her way before the runes rework & she was pretty cool but damn she is a lot more powerful with the new runes especially with the keystone "dark harvest" (mid/late game her E (shunpo) = 80% of enemy's health, if not ONE SHOT)

Like i said, open yourselves to new possibilites, there's a lot more to do than only AP AP AP every time, & in fact i find katarina a LOT more fun to play with this build & the best part about this is that with this build you will have to do a lot more than E + R to get a multikill, but actually pick targets 1 by 1 in a way that won't get you killed.

Anyway, all i wanted to do is to propose to you, kata mains out there, to try out new stuff on her. I'm close of having 1m mastery points on her & god knows how many builds i have tried during this journey XD. Cheers

Runes & Sum spells :

Summoner spells :
Runes : Domination tree : - Keystone : Dark Harvest - Slot 1 : Sudden impact - Slot 2 : Eyeball collection - Slot 3 : Ravenous Hunter Precision tree : - Slot 1 : Triumph - Slot 2 : Coup de grace or Last stand (lately i've been playing with last stand, LOVELY), against a full tank team you can always go with "Cut Down" to have that constant bonus damage no matter your HP or your enemie's.

Items :

Boots : Crit items : 6th item, situational : against full tank team : , against normal comps , open to all ideas u can get (EXPERIENCE STUFF)

14 Comments

ShiznyteMar 13, 20181 votes

I hate to be a debby downer but im about to be... Kat has so many Double Scalings if you want to go an AD auto attack build its actually better to build Hybrid. Crits are cool but you are just forcing crits onto an AoE assassin who is supposed to weave in AA's not base her kit around them. Is Crit Kassadin next maybe?

Sþinny ShìtMar 13, 20181 votes

I know she is at her max with AP, but like i said i wanted some challenge so i started playing her AD crit & i'm very far from being disappointed from this change, i'm having a lot more fun playing her this way than playing AP.

Not forcing any AA, all her combos are combined with AA in between abilities, so AD damage from abilities mixed with the AA damage in between every ability is just epic tbh, thanks to the attack speed you are not really penalized by waiting for AAs to hit at full build the E + AA is an instant combo no need to tell u about E + AA + W + AA + Q + AA + E + AA speed, one of my pentakills was in less than 4 seconds & the combo was exactly : E + AA (kill) - E + AA (kill) - E + AA (kill) - Q + E + AA (kill) - Q + E + AA (kill)

i wanted to record that one but sadly the game had an update & for some reason after updates the old matches can't be recorded so i had no way to record that one :/

SuperCosmicHoboMar 13, 20181 votes

Well Kat isn't really a champ you can build around anything, unlike Bard who can somehow still deal high amount of hybrid crit damage for no apparent reason lol. Or even tank damage is sufficient enough to still hurt. Bard

Sþinny ShìtMar 13, 20181 votes

{quoted}

Well Kat isn't really a champ you can build around anything

are u sure about that ? Because all her abilities do have AD damage (only Q is full AP ) i dunno tbh her AD daggers damage is still enough because of the bonus AA damage compensating the 0 AP

SuperCosmicHoboMar 13, 20181 votes

Lol Bard scales with no Ad and hardly any Ap. Which if you combine his passive over time with Ad abilities. The burst of damage is so high late game that if you stun an adc with your Q. They're dead. Bard's usual ap passive damage is around 150-200 in 20 mins or was it 30 min? Average slow is around 35% - 45% in a game if it lasts to 20 min. First off his auto animation is decent, is really bad in the early games but when static shivv + another ad item. The damage goes up to a more substantial amount and increases from there. Really, even if you build, item 3087 + item 3031 + item 3146 + item 3285 + item 3100 + item 3020 the damage you do can even win an adc and most of them will try to retreat. Then Bard's passive slow kicks in and they literally die from kiting.

Ahri BakaMar 13, 20181 votes

wtf did I watch xD

Sþinny ShìtMar 13, 20181 votes

?

Ahri BakaMar 13, 20181 votes

{quoted}

?

I mean , it was funny lol , I enjoyed it

Taliyah RocksMar 13, 20181 votes

I feel like getting a item 3147 as a first or second item might help with snowballing in the early game.

Sþinny ShìtMar 13, 20181 votes

Tried doing that when i just started trying AD kata but it didn't go so well haha, maybe i wasn't enough used to the build, i might do that next time & see haha

Infinite SaughtMar 13, 20181 votes

It feels like a shitty Jax. Most of your damage is from Daggers anyway (not to mention the clusterfuck of not being able to attack during Death Lotus), as well as it being all Magic making Last Whisper entirely fucked. AD Crit Katarina ultimately sounds like DH AP Katarina except abilities become way less meaningful and you're basically much worse than Master Yi. AD Crit Akali would be better just because she's suppose to autoattack along with Kayle or even Jax. That said, Katarina is just a pseudo-hybrid; the dual ratios are there just so she synergizes with Gunblade, not so she can build either AD or AP and be good.

Sþinny ShìtMar 13, 20181 votes

All her abilities are still usefull on AD crit kata (ONLY Q does AP damage only), her dagger pick ups all have AD damage as well so that mixed to the AA damage (which is instant since the crit build is also about attack speed) = the normal AP dagger damage or even more since u can do multiple AAs during the combos, each one of them being a crit =

A normal kata combo is for example : E + AA + W + AA + Q + AA + E + AA, with each dagger pick up doing AD damage as well & each AA being a crit strike believe me on AD crit kata this combo does a LOT of damage, squishy champs only need E + 1 AA to get them to like 10% health if not dead instant so... verdict is AD crit kata is as deadly as AP, but more challenging, which is cool :D

As i like to say : Who needs R when you have E ?

Just give it a shot go to practice tool & go with this build & tell me if the damage u see isn't high af lol

Infinite SaughtMar 13, 20181 votes

I'm well aware of the implied power of AD Crit Katarina, but that doesn't really mean anything in higher ELOs where people actually react to what you do when you jump on them, as well as the fact that pretty much any other AD Assassin and Akali would get away with it much better. The only places where you could possibly get away with this is gold or lower.

Also, I'm talking about magic damage not "AP damage". All your abilities always do magic damage making Lord's very impractical on her. Also a normal Kata combo stops using AAs after a certain point in the game cause it's just too slow to actually use AAs without an E reset, and Death Lotus prevents you from using AAs. Also, AAs stop being worthwhile in damage to a target. You also have the issue of her Daggers taking forever to drop causing you to probably die before you can actually blow someone up.

Ultimately, unless your targets are brain dead, if they had any amount of thought process, they'll just kite you while you waste so much time to AA them. Pre-6 it doesn't mean anything cause you're suppose to do that. Mid game, it's not worth the effort, with late game, you WILL fall off harder than if you did AP because you shifted the intended kit focus of AOE damage to single target burst, causing your team fighting capabilities to miserably fail.

BladeSteelMar 13, 20181 votes

If you want a fun challenge go ad bruiser Kat Trinity / Titanic then tank

More from Gameplay

3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.

GameplayJul 18, 2015764 comments

3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.

GameplaySep 1, 2015156 comments

GameplayApr 1, 2016606 comments

GameplayDec 21, 2014456 comments

3 Refunds per season, up vote if you want 3 refunds per season.

GameplaySep 17, 2015114 comments

When is ANYONE at riot going to address the awful new player experience?

GameplayNov 30, 2014634 comments