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A possible solution, to an old problem

ShellShoked··10 votes·6,535 views

We all know that Shen is in a really weak state right now. He has really bad wave clear and its hard to farm under turret. This has come to my mind and some of Shen mains hardly agreed with me. There are people who are desperate for a revert because of Vorpal blade(old q). Well, why not combine his old and current q into an ability, here is my Idea: I thought about it this way, how could I combine old q and current q, that's quite easy. Make the spirit sword as an ability stay in his kit and instead of it traveling to Shen when you cast it, it can travel to any targeted entity you cast it on. If it's an enemy champion, a minion or a monster its gonna work as old q did. Teammates who damage that enemy are going to heal for next 3 basic attacks on that entity. If your teammates are targeted by it and spirit sword travels to them and arrives, then their next 3 basic attacks are going to heal them no matter what entity they hit. Now when the sword changes positions ( It is also self castable, you can cast it on yourself) it travels as current q does. If it happens to hit an enemy champion its gonna give empowered auto attacks to Shen. This pretty much allows you to have a better sustain in the lane and some more damage. Now I know its gonna kinda be a bit strong given that you can cast it multiple times trough an enemy, but I think it could be sorted out by changing numbers. I really hope this comes out to be a thing and that we can play Shen as we once did and be happy about it while also keeping current q Shen mains unite! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

17 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer5 votes

Point and click harass heals is why Vorpal Blade was removed in the first place.

ShellShoked3 votes

No intention of being rude but if that's the reason Vorpal blade was removed then explain Sylas's heals.

Verxint4 votes

Sylas heal doesn't heal allies Sylas heal isn't usable from range, it puts him in melee Sylas doesn't use his W to harass or poke Sylas is a different champion with totally different abilities and it's stupid to just compare the fact that both of them heal

ShellShoked1 votes

Yes but Sylas autowins trades with his absurd heal

ShellShoked2 votes

{quoted} Sylas heal isn't usable from range, it puts him in melee

Shen is not mele?

OlympusSworn4 votes

Because sylas's heal is not harass. Its a very close range ability, that is used near the end of a trade

Fízz v22 votes

You should use Vlad Q instead of Sylas W then you have a point

Shín4 votes

As a Shen player, I think it's not that bad of an idea. That would be a nice harass ability. Though I think that's why Old Shen's Q was changed. A buff on his Ultimate is what I think is needed too. It doesn't provide that much of a shield now that the meta, alot of bruisers and Assassins just do so much. I may be wrong I just think that's what it's needed. Any way, I hope we can find something for Shen to make him better. ^^

General Esdeath 3 votes

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We all know that Shen is in a really weak state right now. He has really bad wave clear and its hard to farm under turret.

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ShellShoked1 votes

What about matchups where I need to rush defensive items? What then? Do I hope that I kill as much minions as possible because I'm forced to rush instead of getting tiamat?

General Esdeath 1 votes

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What about matchups where I need to rush defensive items? What then? Do I hope that I kill as much minions as possible because I'm forced to rush instead of getting tiamat?

Pretty sure Q gives you 3 empowered autos to kill the melee minions after 2 tower hits, then the casters take 1 shot and 1 auto.

Saezio2 votes

Nah, the only answer to be more relevant in today's meta is through damage, so, just give him more damage and he will be better. Make him playable as an assassin or bruiser, tanks are dead. And if you build tanky in any position besides support, you are hindering your own team unfortunately.

ShellShoked1 votes

I mean you can do a good bit of damage with current Shen but he still feels really weak. At least to me

Saezio1 votes

Can you really though? What opponents can you kill or bully out of XP with shen?

ShellShoked1 votes

If you play it smart you can win almost every matchup and hard carry

Kazekiba1 votes

That actually makes Shen feel like Shen and less like a r63 Irelia. (Spirits Refuge wouldve been a way better W than her current one....)

Eleshakai1 votes

I just miss Ionic Spark for Shen. That item was great, especially for Shen jungle way back in the day.

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