Riot.... I'm being serious...

WDG Devour·6/27/2018, 11:33:57 PM·3 votes·711 views

When are you going to make Marksman viable in every lane just like mages and bruisers are in bot lane now? Please do not leave this problem for 5+ years. it is imperative you address this so we all know where we stand and start working towards a fix, at least for pre season.

The problem before was Marksmen were "essential" botlane, now they are drowned out by bruisers and mages. However the problem is Marksmen are not effective in other lanes and when they was they were nerfed heavily (Lucian Top/Mid, Ezreal Jungle).

This seems like a game design issue or change on stance from Riot, I say this because it is evident Riot believed in a Marksmen being paired with a support in the botlane (evident through the design of Xayah & Rakan and encouraging Marksmen+support meta for several years).

Then Riot released Kai'Sa as what seems to be response to most Marksmen being AD based as people want AP bot. Then Riot realised after Kai'Sa that people don't necessarily want AP Marksmen, they want to use the champions they already know and love in the bot lane (Mages and Bruisers). So Riot opened the floodgates has forgotten all about Marksmen like their a problem child....

Marksmen previously had a lot of responsibility to carry the game as they did sustained ranged damage over time with just AA, took turrets and objectives the fastest and secured most the most kills, the community perhaps didn't like this because most Marksmen where AD which is true, there should be a mix of both AP and AD marksmen IMO and Kai'Sa was big success in terms of creating a AP hyper carry, a hyper carry shouldn't be limited to one damage type.

I looked at hypercarry marksmen class the same way Strikers in football have the responsibility to score a majority of goals for their team. Strikers are seen as essential in football and a good thing. For the sake of the world cup I shall continue to make comparisons to the beautiful game that is football. ;)

Strikers are glorified for what they do in football carrying their team by being the main goal scorer, leading the line or kick taking etc but the League community vilify marksmen and their ability to take kills and objectives like they could in the past and instead seem to favour a unstructured system. For the sake of comparison it would be like Goalkeepers, defenders and midfielders all going into the Strikes position on a football field... no positional or role structure.

It's a shame that the League community thinks like this but if that is the mindset of the majority is like this then I'm dead serious when I say Riot should just delete all Marksmen from the game rather than making Marksmen a class less impactful than supports, I'd rather just go and shoot people on Fortnite.... if my mindset is in the minority.... why does what I think even matter for the game? I'd rather you do what's most enjoyable for the majority of this great League community.

This is the problem Riot fail to realise, they have lost sight of fact that this game needs structure and they are now supporting this random picks in every lane meta. However, this is already satisfied in Blind and Draft pick.... League (Ranked) is borderline a sport (e-sport) there should be structure just like real sports. In football you will never see Ronaldo suddenly start playing Centre Back, that is tactically and structurally a wrong thing to do...and so is all these Mages and Bruisers in the botlane but that is just my opinion.

I refuse to believe a huge Triple A company like Riot are losing sight of how to structure their game considering how big the eSports scene is.... so my grand question to Riot is:

What is the game design/plan for the game?...

**1. Is this game designed around having random champs in every lane/role? **Which is essentially no structure. ** **

OR

**2. Or does one role have an "optimal" type of champion that would create a structured skillful environment as opposed to a Russian roulette environment? (I say optimal because ideally a champ should be able to play in at least one other non "optimal" role and still succeed the same way a striker may still succeed on the wings if they had a lot of pace) **

3 Comments

TouchFluffyTail6/27/2018, 11:49:22 PM1 votes

I simply started playing my Miss Fortune mid. Works perfectly for me.

BEK Makadur6/27/2018, 11:55:44 PM1 votes

Below diamond(maybe plat) u can pretty much play everything :D

Besides that, the main issue for marksman right now is the game length, crit adc are meant to be lategame powerhouses and right now there is no lategame in most games, so if they drag the games to an average of 30/35 minutes marksman will come back.

edit: And btw originally Riots idea for champions was that they could go in multiple roles. Also it is imo really bad that the botlane meta was pretty much the same for like 5 years. The game should change so that different strategies get you to victory.

NahDogSolRahn6/28/2018, 2:34:05 AM1 votes

With towers made from one-ply toilet paper and free damage for everyone, why would we need a class that only offers damage? I can take a Tank like Leona, run her with Conqueror and Trinity Force, and have the ability to skirmish with everything but some Duelists and Juggernauts. I could do this with the older runes and masteries before Juggernauts were a thing, but I digress.