Ever consider to put a points limit for picking a champ in ranked ?

Xx EviLTouch xX·Jul 7, 2019·4 votes·4,083 views

i just had a very annoying game , with 3 ppl lower than 1k points in ranked ! Mid as veigar vs zed (much more points than him) Supp as Sona less than 1k points vs Velkoz much more knowledge of his champ and Adc Ashe 300 something points vs Varus (much more points than adc)

Let me ask you Riot , how can those ppl testing champions in ranked games like this ? is it still worth playing LoL at all when this is happening ? How can ppl climb when 3 out of 5 players are trolling or testing champs in ranked games ? Why do normal games exist for ? What do you do for ppl playing this game and want to climb if such games exist , and there is no possible way to win such games , since they are lost from 1 second ?

Sorry if my english are bad , not my mother language

8 Comments

TanerianJul 7, 20195 votes

Lmao people with 100k+ mastery fail just as often as the 1k guys.

Mastery points matter very little. You just notice it easier.

Also, you'd have to have like 20 champions with a high enough mastery to even enter ranked, else run the risk of you mastery champions being picked/banned.

DOUBLE TAPPED EJul 7, 20194 votes

HoTS had a system like this, where in order to play ranked you had to have 10 heroes at "level 5" or something like that. The issue was that it took AGES to unlock new heroes, and it would take nearly a week of grinding to get all the free heroes to level 5 so by the time you managed it the next rotation was coming out.

I just wanted to play some ranked one-tricking Yrel (imagine Riven + Poppy ) but it just wasn't doable because despite having Yrel at like level 15 or something, I could never have 9 other heroes at lv 5 to be allowed to queue up...

That said, I don't see League having this issue, since champions are MUCH easier to obtain than they are (were? is it still a game?) in HoTS. I'd like to see this implemented.

Vanic998Jul 7, 20193 votes

Wow I like this idea. I too have encountered players who used smurfs only to test out champions in ranked. I once even played with a ZERO mastery point kayle top and she played as bad as you think. There was one funny time when I had one of those smurfs testing out ryze in ranked who fed early game and remained useless for the rest of the game and when I criticized him, he told me that he's a higher rank them I am on his main account and that he has a higher winrate than I do on his main champion. It's funny because one, he isn't on his main account and two, he wasn't playing his main champion, so my criticism still stands.

The Way To DawnJul 7, 20192 votes

While I agree with the general premise of this, I really doubt it will change much. Some champions take a lot of skill and time to learn ie.) Azir or Zed (I am mid Diamond so don't hit me with that BS Zed is OP argument). So even a basic point gap wouldn't make much difference on the players performance. At the same time, I myself and many others I've seen, can pick up a champion and learn them very rapidly and be ranked reliable in one or two games easily. So this mastery point bar would really feel limiting especially with new champion releases.

So while I agree that this might help a little I don't know how much difference it will actually make. It's not like theyd make tailored point regiments for champs based on difficulty. Also inherently in ranked people try to climb by playing stuff they know (hopefully) so while that may have happened to you, it's definitely not the norm. Recency bias might make most people think otherwise though.

Daddy AntsJul 7, 20191 votes

Mechanical / High skill cap / new champions should require 15,000 mastery points or more to take into ranked in my opinion

Champions like Azir Akali Bard Draven Gangplank Ryze Riven Sylas Thresh Vayne Yasuo Zed Qiyana Pyke Nidalee

SKUMBAG FERGJul 7, 20191 votes

You should need to have a champ at mastery 4 or above to use them in ranked

Xx EviLTouch xXJul 7, 20191 votes

In fact , what i wanted to say , is that it is unacceptable for people to get into Ranked mode to test new champs

Why Normal mode exist then? ? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? Isn't normal mode there to have more fun and test champions ? play with friends and enjoy the game without the fear of demoted or even the fear of losing ? am i wrong on this ?

Why Riot still has the normal mode there ? And why anyone go NORMAL mode if you can pick new champions you just bought or just released in Ranked mode ?

And because someone said that 1k or 100k points doesn't matter sometimes ... you have right ... but at least 100k points you consider to be know your champ better than 1k points ... if u still cant play him it means you are a pure n00b , or just that u didn't understand its mechanics and way of play him yet. so , in this case , you have to get back to normal and practice , and not do it in ranked , that will cost your team a lose for sure (especially if 3 people pick new champions they just bought to learn in ranked)

Also , about a Diamond friend above that said he can learn champs easily etc ... you have right bro But that's why (and not only) you are in Diamond and some other people are in Iron even in Wood... you are up there but also you are in the minority of all players playing , and when someone in Bronze or Silver even in Gold tries to do the same thing , then the result usually is to set the result of the game to Defeated for his team . So Riot has to do something for all of us and not be thinking if the new champ will not be played in Ranked mode the first 1-2 weeks (they can even release the champions in normal modes only first , people will still go there and play them to get experience and then ranked)

Xx EviLTouch xXJul 7, 20191 votes

At the end of the day guys , if Riot still allows Players buy new champs and immediately go into Ranked mode to play them , it means that Normal mode is useless and just takes some players away from Ranked , meaning more queue time for Ranked

There is no meaning for Normal mode to exist in this case

If only 1 mode , queues will be much less and maybe the Matchmaking will be better as well , coz of the more people queueing up in ranked mode

but it seems they dnt care about their game , they dont care about the quality of their game ... more people to be happy and to play this game ...