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Discussion: Does Honor Level Affect Matchmaking?

Xanderjutsu·4/16/2018, 5:49:20 AM·1 votes·1,979 views

This account is a smurf account of mine and I had a 74% win rate and had just gotten into Plat 4. I got chat banned for saying: "these retards are inting" which was a 2/18 bot lane. I've seen worse things in games and I shouldn't have been chat banned and had my honor reset, completely ridiculous. However, that is for another discussion. The quality of my games, after being banned, has tremendously dropped. I am consistently getting toxic players on my teams, and my lanes lose practically every game. Mind you, I'm a jungle smurf. I am not just simple blaming my team for my inability to carry, I know that I can carry these games. I did it up to Plat 4, with a 74% win rate, until I got banned. Riot might say that honor level has nothing to do with the quality of matches, but I know that is a blatant lie after having had this happen on multiple accounts. Albeit, on those other accounts the chat bans and ensuing honor level resets were warranted. But 1) I have never had such a ridiculous chat ban and 2) I have definitely assured myself that Riot intentionally lowers the quality of matchmaking in correspondence to honor level. It's pretty shameful to be honest, that an entire account gets deemed unworthy because my bot lane fed, I tried to console them, tried to carry, tried to win, and they continue to intentionally feed. I then call them retards and get chat banned and honor reset? Because I called out a bot lane that was trolling? Come on now. No one in the real world cares if you call a bad person something bad. So why should I be banned for saying a SINGLE insult, to a bot lane that is trolling in my game? Okay... I'm really close to being done with this game for good after coming off a 6 month break.

I'd also like to note that I am definitely not a honor level 1 worthy player. I am constantly consoling teammates who are raging, flaming or whining. I try to calm them down and get them to play their best or at least minimize the bleeding. I thank my bot lane for leashes, I recently stopped making jokes of any sort (light hearted or not, because everyone in this game seems to be a bunch of butterflies), thus I'm a gleeful fairy running through the jungle. I try to give players constructive advice: "hey Cait, next time when we get a kill bot try to just push 1 wave and base with us, that way you wont get killed" and I get a response of "fuck you, KYS %%%%%%" (yeah he doesn't deserve a chat ban amarite RIOT?). I hover a lane because my bot lane is feeding and they, as expected, try to fight the enemy bot lane and are going to die if I don't assist, but against my will we all die. But according to my support I forced the play and caused them to 7 times previously and that I shouldn't ever gank their lane again. I say "okay" and am later reminded that I never ganked bot. Yes, I know I am ohh so toxic :(. I shouldn't have tried to diffuse the situation, I shouldn't have tried to gank, I shouldn't have done anything apparently because my feeding bot lane knows all. But hey, I'm the toxic one MEMBURRR? Hey, when I get that sick ass baron steal and say: "TY for the leash" I'm toxic, it's not friendly banter or anything and the "Fuck you insert champ suck my dick, I won" was definitely not toxic, at all. He shouldn't be banned amarite. Ohh wait, you say he just might get chat banned? Ohh shit, he's in my next game and does the same thing, only he's on the losing end this game and still flaming along. Good ole' Riot Games, banning the "toxic" players and not at all properly reviewing chat logs, because computers are perfect right? "But you've been banned on multiple accounts!!! ERMAGERSH!!!" Yes, almost all junglers are subject to the baby rage disease of their teams and if you, like me, at all frequently communicate in an attempt to facilitate your team's cohesiveness you are subconsciously more responsible for everything in the game. Thus the blame gets pinned on you, and when you aren't a beta and try to defend yourself, you automatically get labeled "toxic" by the hoard of low elo scrubs. THE END

3 Comments

Xanderjutsu4/16/2018, 5:51:44 AM1 votes

TL;DR : This game is too P.C.

Punished Support7/19/2018, 6:35:28 PM1 votes

Using slurs? BANNED!!

Wasting your team's time, intentionally walking into other lanes and grabbing xp during laning phase, cussing out the support for not warding when your vision score is 0 at the 18 minute mark, making fun of your jungler for not taking one drake despite bot losing fight after fight and still going aggressive, buying the wrong items on a champion with very sensitive itemization despire being told what to take and you yourself admitting it's your first time playing that champ, making FOUR players get angry and wrecking their nerves because of your "lol it's just normal tryhard bronzie" attitude? Perfectly fucking fine.

Riot can just chalk it up to players being unskilled WHICH IS NO LONGER SOMETHING YOU CAN REPORT SOMEONE FOR and as we all know matchmaking needs no improvement. Now you have 3 categories that specifically target player language AND the bans are handed out by bots. I had a Zyra once call a Trunde <racial slur used for black people> and <racial slur used for homosexuals> and I simply asked the enemy team to report her. When they asked me why, I told them what words she used. A few seconds after that I got a 2 weeks ban.

Since then my teams were full of just laggers and people who exclusively had negative KD ratios and lost their lanes miserably. Every. Single. Match.

Words hurt, restrict my chat for the rest of the game and future games if I use toxic language. Chat ban me for the entire season. However, banning me after wasting 40 minutes of my life with nothing to show for it because I flamed someone who gives no shits about his team and is gonna forget about me by the next time he's champ select is just a joke. I support the game, play it, buy skins, advertise it, constantly ask people to join but I can't even have free speech?

Honestly how significant are people who quit league because people are mean in chat? Does that even happen? Not to mention PERMA BANNING players because of language says something about the community as a whole. Snowflakes who just can't handle freaking WORDS. But I guess it's better PR to have snowflakes over 'toxic' people.

Remember how they ID banned Tyler1 and then they changed their mind when he started streaming Dota2 with over 10k viewers? Yea, real smooth.

TL;DR This cancerous P.C. culture is spreading everywhere and I have no idea how, when and why people started supporting idiots who look for something that might offend someone in every statement they see but I'm sad to see Riot falling for this as well.

Athulos11/1/2018, 2:52:50 PM1 votes

Exact same story. Was close to hitting plat in s7, had trolls because at the end of the season gold is pretty full of them. Ended as G1 and then got chat banned in January (s8) due to saying the notorious "kys" thing (tbh I've been told that thing everyday in every game, and I didn't even know it's meaning for a long time). I've found it to be more of a cliché, everyone used it like it was a friendly insult of some kind.

After the 2 weeks ban has ended, I've had a full experience of what the bottom of the gold community looks like. As a jungler main, 2/3 of my games were "my fault" after laners literally inting. I can strongly confirm that I literally got dragged down by my teammates in most of my games, a lot harder than before the ban, since jungling is one of the most dependent-of-the-team role imo. Now I am ending s8 on G5, and some random people that get to analyze my gameplay get to ask me why am I not above gold.

I consider that the honor system is fair as long as you can /muteall and carry yourself to a honor 5 level, when you can meet normal players. (So then maybe you won't have to be the one to be thrown rocks at in every game you're playing out of passion and for the sake of improvement.) The bots analyzing the chat after reports can be improved, and they should be. The logs should be reviewed by some machine learning algorithm that can detect meanings at a lower level (these technologies exist). Riot doesn't really care about sensitive issues like these, because there is no money in it. Typical business.