Cho'gath is broken

Sarah Fortune··5 votes·2,342 views

I would be nice if someone had a counter to Cho'gath's 1.2k True damage ulty which is a point and click ability that literally has no counter, besides Fiora which already has true damage as well but its skill based unlike Big Bad Rawr True Damage BS, can we have like a nerf on his ulty please.

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tseihei2 votes

Unlike fiora, cho gath has no way of getting within close range of an adc unless he hits a q on them. Try hitting a lucian/vayne that holds onto their dash and see how hard it is to hit rupture. Other than that the only way Cho can get in close range is flash... Especially with all the movement speed people have in their builds at this time.

Valexfor1 votes

It's so strong only on monsters actually, on champs it's quite weak [300 / 475 / 650 (+ 70% AP)] considering it's range and the fact that to make full use of it he need to use it as an execute with no damage amplifier (unlike the other execute) based on missing health (guess that's why it's true damage and not magick damage). Also Cho'Gath is rarely built full ap, so the max it will do on a champion is usually 730/750, rarely 800. A lot of ult do more damage even when mitigated byt a lot of defense and have more range/better utility mind you. Also for the lack of any kind of mobility on Cho, if he manages to reach you you made quite a bit of mistakes, and if you're so low that you get executed you probably made even more by fighting him in the first place.

P.s. for some reason I can't vote o-O.

Sarah Fortune1 votes

For the game i was recently playing he went half ap half tank, even with him being half and half his ulty still did about 1.2k true damage.

Valexfor1 votes

And I'm telling you it's impossible. Every 100 ap he gets 70 extra damage. so if he went half and half he must have had something like 300/400 ap (best case), which is not enough to bring 650 to 1.2k. Unless you mean full ap with tanky items like Rylai/RoA, which is not half tank half ap, but full Ap. And even then if he didn't have at least 875 (which is 599 extra damage, just enough to do 1.249 true damage) ap he wouldn't be able to do 1.2k, meaning he had to be full build and even have ap runes. If you take it from death recap know that they are bugged since ages ago and aren't a good representation of the damage in any way, they even say that flash or ghost do damage sometimes. It's not my opinion, it's Math, can't do anything about it, it's just this way, unless the skillis currently bugged, which means that the bug must be fixed, not that the champ must nerfed.

Kariel1 votes

i agree 420/69 OPP Too MLG 4 me 1 v 5 chogath broken pliz nurfooreeno

Embertine1 votes

There are counters though. . . .

Items, item 3102 item 3026

Champion abilities, Aatrox Passive. Ahri Charm. Anivia Passive, Stun. Annie Stun. Ashe Stun. AurelionSol Stun. Bard Ult, Stun. Blitzcrank Silence, Knockup. Braum Stun. Cassiopeia Ult. Chogath Silence, Knockup. Fiddlesticks Silence, Fear. Fiora Parry. Fizz Troll Pole. Galio Ult. Irelia Stun. Kayle Ult. Kindred Ult. Leblanc Clone. Leona Stun, Another Stun. Lissandra Ult. Malphite Knockup. Malzahar Ult. MasterYi Alpha Strike. Morgana Spell Shield. (May be wrong about this one. Pantheon Stun. Poppy Stun, Knockup. Rammus Taunt. Riven Stun. Shaco Fear. Sivir Spell Shield. Skarner Ult. Soraka Silence. TahmKench Eat. Taric Stun. Vayne Impale. Vladimir Pool. Warwick Ult. Zac Passive. Zed Ult. Zilean Ult.

Everything listed has something that blocks the damage or prevents him from doing anything completely.

Sarah Fortune1 votes

The Spellshields don't really help you unless you are very skilled against playing against cho'gaths by predicting when they apply their ulty.

Embertine1 votes

And that's why I played Cho'gath for a while. So I could learn how his kit works and how his playstyles feels. It really helped me predict his spells.

Jokey3 votes

i like how you put cho gath in there... nice

VoidStaresBack1 votes

The necros though...

It was rather nifty though.

Smoke and Steel2 votes

The only way to fight a giant void monster is with another giant void monster.

VoidStaresBack1 votes

I really want to see a cinematic where Cho'Gath and Rek'Sai go toe to toe, would be amazing.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

I mean you could just not go near him. Unless you're not where you're supposed to be, or not a squishy, Cho really has no way of getting to you other than a flash ult.

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