Hey, but have you forgotten about Shen?

I'm assuming you're talking about bruisers. He's supposed to lose hard to most of them, and compensate with global presence + utility

hi, I'm more tank than shen, Good engage, more damage. high utility I'm tank too. CC CC CC everywhere and discreet damage. I can tank for years and I've more damage. My W has a good utility. I can save my ally such as shen, but with lower CD more tank, split push, good engage with R, more damage

WE are juggernaut, but we are more tank than champion that have that roles. Ok we have no mobility, but with 2 skills we can kill your team.

Hi ....ehmmm. My laning phase sucks. I've AP scaling on my Q and R and i don't know why. I'm forced to go tank without other possibility. My farm depends on objects. My W has the same duration during the match, no buff in late. I've a discreet engage, but If I miss my E I'm died because I lose my energy and unique engage. I can't tank too much without mi W. I'm the toplaner with lowest statistics. Ok I've global presence, at least I've a good R ( not like udyr who has none ahaha)

Lol these people don't realize that using your ultimate is going to mean losing your tower and farm.