malzahar

RedAppleOG··2 votes·696 views

Why can malzahar just suppress you for like 5 seconds??? theres no counter play, atleast make it a slow or something along those lines because every time you think you doing well as an adc or someone squishy or you going to kill someone BOOM rko out of nowhere as you watch yourself die and no chance of survival because you cant do anything.

Please nerf this champ so i can actully enjoy playing the game and many others thankyou

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EndlessSorcerer3 votes

item 3140 removed his Suppression, Silence, Ignite and Malefic Visions.

If the purchase of one item invalidating about half of his kit isn't enough, his ultimate requires he suppress himself too (meaning your team can interrupt him or force him to stop channeling it).

Malzahar is very strong at 1v1 fights and at killing people who dive into him alone. Don't do that, ward up (so he doesn't ambush you) and you should be fine.

Jabberwöcky2 votes

item 3139

Cloud2732 votes

Yea he's pretty broken atm. He currently has the highest winrate of all mid champs.

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

ValyrianBlade2 votes

There are lots of counters to Malzahar's suppression. Before I continue I'll caveat that I think Malz needs a nerf (he's actually my first choice to ban right now), but the necessary nerf may not be his ultimate and his ultimate does not lack counterplay.

First, as an AD champion you can easily counter his ultimate with a single item item 3140 in to item 3139. The active will end the suppression, problem gone.

This isn't always practical though. You don't want to rush QSS on ANYONE, let alone a mid laner. He'll obviously hit 6 before you get QSS as a second item, so what do you do?

Prioritize an item with some MR first. AD: item 3155 is pretty much a standard start against any AP champion AP: item 3001 is great, unless you need mana regen then go item 3028 > item 3174

These items will let you survive his full combo engage. If you don't want to go for that early (I don't know why not, but perhaps you're trying to rush something yourself) there's always the option of running scaling MR glyphs (by 6+ they'll be close enough to flat and better shortly thereafter) and buying a second item 1056 for a bit more survivability.

For counterplay a little longer in to the game, Malzahar's ultimate is easily interrupted. Any CC will prevent his channel. Someone on your team should always have a CC available to interrupt his ultimate in a teamfight.

Most mid laners also gain their roaming power around level 6. Most should either be able to farm from a safe distance (he can't engage) or should be able to roam to snowball other lanes until it's time to teamfight (so allies can break the channel).

Malzahar's true strength lies in his easy laning via e, his aoe silence, and his voidlings. His ultimate is just a gimmick that catches most people off-guard, especially if a team blows all of their CC early in a fight.

ff4sk2 votes

You can counter his ult by buying one item.

His suppress ult is fair for an immobile champion with no defense vs dives. Also, last game you played against malzahar you were ezreal, a mobile champion with high poke, how do you even get caught by malzahar while playing ezreal?

Phixler1 votes

QSS and someone stunning him are 2 off the top of my head. I play him often actually as one of my favorite mages and I usually waste atleast 1 or 2 ults on people with QSS before I realize they built it.

IWrath1 votes

To add onto the ways to counter his ult, there's one main reason he has such an ult. He has no escape at all, I mean the dude literally moves like a turtle and if you don't have flash and over extend you're gonna die. He's not a runner, not an AP Burster, he's a pure caster (and his ranges aren't really anything special.) He's well balanced as he his now, you just need to know how to play him and play against him. I mean it's never a good idea to take a melee vs someone like Malz in the first place.

RedAppleOG

yeah but i cant get enough gold to buy it because every time i come back to lane i get 1 shot

Kivolan1 votes

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yeah but i cant get enough gold to buy it because every time i come back to lane i get 1 shot

item 3140 summoner 1 item 1033

Literally build one MR item and you will no longer be one shot by it.

LoLKiru3 votes

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item 3140 summoner 1 item 1033

Literally build one MR item and you will no longer be one shot by it.

To be fair, cleanse does nothing to stop Malzahar; anyone who picks cleanse into him deserves everything thats coming to them (because it doesn't stop suppression)

The rest of your point still stands.

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