Tryndamere, and other split champs, how?

Luck øf the Draw·8/1/2018, 6:08:12 AM·1 votes·836 views

Ok... I've really come to the end of my rope with these bogus champions. Instead of explaining the entire game, I will just try to summarize the situation ive been in multiple times against splitpush champions. (Yi, Pantheon, Tryndamere, Udyr, nasus, etc)

In a situation where you are stuck in your base, im talkin all towers gone, all inhibitors gone and 1-2 of the enemies keep backdooring inhibs as they respawn to keep all lanes pressured, what is the right thing to do?

Assuming each team is of equal strength, which is never really the case but for the sake of the discussion.. How do you push out of your base and even up any pressure against backdoor champions?

It usually takes at least 2 people to stop them. Both teams being of equal strength, the 3v4 is unreasonable. So 3 team mates are defending the 4 man push, while 2 try to take care of the split pusher. Thats even IF you have all 3 people to defend and one is not taking care of double supers in the 3rd, uncontested lane.

What do you do? What is the strategy?

Why is it that these champs are rewarded for feeding and playing poorly? Tryndamere is notorious for being able to feed for the entire game and still win it just by staying in his own lane and pushing from the beginning of the game to the end. Other champions, like Yi, Nasus, Udyr and pantheon can also do the same thing. As the game goes on, whether they are playing poorly or doing well, they have the ability to split push constantly and take towers/inhibs in a matter of seconds.

I'm just curious as to what the best strategy is against split pushers.

Although this discussion was brought about by my recent match, I have lost a large number of games to people who choose to split push. Most notably the champions I mentioned, but even others.. Camille, Irelia, Darius, etc. These are champs that can easily 1v2, Darius can even 1v3 if he plays his cards right.. so what gives? lol

Pointless rant below: -My last game went well into 50+ minutes with us being stuck in our base since minute 23-24. We practically sat guarding the nexus and inhibs, picking off the tryn and pantheon who kept suiciding to try to kill the nexus. Once we got an ace and had an opening, we attempted to 3 man push mid WITH baron that we stole to try to gain some momentum. Low and behold... while blitz is tanking top super wave, and orianna is holding off mid and bottom, tryndamere sneaks through the jungle, spins into the base, and wacks away at our nexus. Ori and blitz try to stop him, but guess what... all he has to do is ult for 6 free seconds of damage.

Even though he started the game 0/8, eventually coming out to 6/12, he managed to constantly keep us from doing ANYTHING just by kamikaze backdooring inhibs to keep supers coming at us and running into the base to wack the nexus. To make things worse, when we stopped tryndamere, pantheon would just ult into our base to do whatever damage he could before we realized it and went to stop him.

I had my full build, and about 5k gold sitting from defending wave after wave of minions. I could easily 1-2 shot anyone on the enemy team, but I just as easily got bopped by tryn/pantheon/AP morg mid/nidalee. Every fight we won counted for nothing as we still had to defend. We stole a baron, still had to take that baron back to the base to defend. We had one chance to push into their base... but still got backdoored after seemingly taking every precaution. Perhaps warding was the issue, they were able to sneak to the base because we couldn't see them. Other than that, I see no other way of dealing with it when a 0/8 tryndamere can kill 2 people and still take an inhib, leave, push another lane waiting for ult then go right back to where he was.

2 Comments

DarukongSr8/1/2018, 6:13:37 PM1 votes

I feel your pain. I hate tryn in this meta and with that E cool down buff. Champs like him should never have the true damage offered by conquerors and I.E. because he's hyperscaling, hyper mobile, and unkillabke for what seems like forever lol. As a Darius main, I can't even beat him when I'm full health, ninja tabi, and cold steel under tower anymore, even though I started with the kill lead. He's a brainless champ that reka because there is little counterplay and no counterbuilds lol. Yi on the other hand. I've literally seen him 100-0 towers with no minons in like 4-5 secs when he pops his ult. It's disgusting.