Veigar Post 5.4 general discussion
Hello im opening up this discussion in light of the arisen Veigar buggs and general thoughts on the recent changes in the lastest 5.4 patch.
Firstly i would like to point out that his kit, in the state that it is now, is completely usless against 90% of the current meta mid laners. The changing of balefull strike to a skillshot from a targeted ability has greatly diminished veigar's kill potential. Even with the added potential to kill 2 rabbits with one Q + double bonus ap doesnt nearly cover for the fact that the hitbox for it is extremely narrow and the slightly longer range ironicly isnt long enough to compensate for the fact that u still need to come in closer if u want to get a kill on a mele + ranged minion. Also given the fact that Veigar has litle base atack dmg its fairly impossible to get 2 minion kills in the 1 to 7-8 lv due to his low dmg, so basicly its usless. His dueling potential has also been diminished since he can no longer count on his Q R combo to take out high mobility champions like ahri,kassadin,talon,katarina,fiz etc.(even if they get caught in his stun by some miraculous chance).
The nerf to his stun, I feel, was the biggest blow to veigar's game, since he depended on it for 80% of the plays he did. The 0.75 delay on it means that any champion with even the slightest dash would be able to dodge it, provided ofc if they dont have someway to mitigate its effect, in which case they would simply walk away. Outside of a teamfight the stun is unreliable at best if not usless at worst
His ultimate wasnt spared either. The 0.2 ap ratio nerf was excrutiatingly painfull. A straight up cheapshot to Veigar's metal clad crotch. Considering that his former kit was balanced in the way that if u managed to harrase your oponent with 2-3 Q-s (which by itself is fairly risky given the fact that he is realy squishy and dies easely) and then manage to land your stun and hit with all of your spells(for which you need to be able to click extremely fast) ment that you would do just enough dmg to take out your target or leave them so low that an ignite would finish the job, but removing 50-100 dmg from it, coupled with the now skillshot Q and 0.75 deleay on your stun, means that you basicly cannot kill any of the current meta game midlaners without the assisstance of your jungler, and even with a gank there is still the chance that you wont even be able to catch your opponent while your jungler is ganking since ur stun has a windup now. The lack of DeathFire grasp doesnt help either.
Veigar used to pride himself with his powerfull 1v1 potential and his incrediable utility in teamfights but with the reasent changes he is very much unplayable. That and the fact that many champions with teleports like zed or kass can now dodge his ult by simply teleporting while the ult is coming at them and they will receave no dmg.
In conclusion i would like to say that the current veigar will never have any place in any team comp what so ever, and i know that things will change in the upcoming patches but it still needs to be said. VEIGAR IS BROKEN.
Thank you for reading this lengthy post and please share your newest experiances with veigar so far.