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Rengar stuff, come read ! Especially Rioters if possible

TheThrillOfHunt·5/19/2017, 9:52:13 AM·3 votes·492 views

SO !

Basically, i think that now, we can admit Rengars rework was a failure and the arguments used to rework him were contradictory and stuff. Such as "Rengar's leap range shouldn't change in game because the players must be able to know a range and stick to it" What's tristana's passive then ? Increased auto attack range with levels. Plus kindred's rework gives her extra range with stacks.

Getting 725 range on the leap at level one is super oppressive at early levels in the toplane. I'd rather get the 0,5 second linger for the passive and lower range without stacks than this. Now, we can't perform baron or dragon jumps anymore, one of the numerous tricks removed on Rengar with this rework.

One of Rengar's rework goals was to make him less "feast or famine", but now it's even worse than before. Since you get damage out of your bonetooth stacks, you have nearly no damage when behind and without stacks, but if you snowball the early game, you can destroy entire games. And if you're behind, it's really har to get stacks since you have to damage the guy 1.5 second before he dies to get the stack. Even if you get the kill thanks to a turret or creeps, you won't get the stack. It feels super frustrating and unfair. And also, why can't it be 3 seconds or something like that ? 1.5 sec is super short when you don't get the kill yourself.

Also, Rengar's A is one of the things that made him overpowered, his jungle clear is unbalanceable because he has massive early gameg AOE damage. A single targeted Q would be more balanced, like an auto attack empower as an example ;)

Anyway, i'm here to propose stuff. I've made posts on reddit that were really well welcomed and i would like Rioters to see them (because yeah, we had the confirmation from one of them that they're working on Rengar atm).

If you plan to rework the rework, or revert, don't hesitate to take ideas from here :

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rengarmains/comments/61y06j/had_a_little_bit_of_thinking_lately_here_are_the/

2 more links about the new kit compared to the old one :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fc6WM8T9ow&feature=youtu.be

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rengarmains/comments/63mozm/new_rengar_kit_vs_pre_rework_rengar_kit/

Don't hesitate to comment and show your opinion !

10 Comments

Dreadlocks5/19/2017, 11:28:50 AM4 votes

Id rather have the rengar I fell in love with in season 5

Shablagoo5/19/2017, 6:39:09 PM3 votes

Its funny cuz rengar is fairly simple to balance, for one the only reason the old q was unfair was because of his ult which gave him to much mobility and ability to get on his target, if they keep the old q with the new ult it wouldnt be a problem. Also i dont get what as so op about it compared to talons q or kha's q, no counterplay at all. Auto attack enhancers are suppose to be like that. Also the new ult is terrible when really thought about, such a large indicator range, that makes a noise, and is blockable, and to make it worse its camo too? Like it wasnt easy enough to see that he was coming. To compensate they made it super long, with movement speed, and crit making it worse and more oppressive than the old ult. Nothing was solved with this rework at all the new q is even worse than the old one because it can blow up the whole team if used properly and feels clunky for old players. Playing with him feels clunky and playing against him feels oppressive it was a massive failure, and the riot team has now abandoned him after nerfing him to the ground.

Shacophobia5/19/2017, 11:25:47 AM1 votes

Well, I agree with you on the rework being a failure. I don't know much about how this and other games work, but if it means a full tank champion can do more dmg than an assassin, something is NOT right. Like this entire meta was tanks, look at the assassin's now, after the lethality took a nerf, I see black cleaver being built more, and armor and etc. Which doesn't make sense for an assassin to do, but it seems better than building dmg now. Like my thoughts, at least how it feels is, an assassin one shotting you? Naww, can't happen nerf, full tank volibear running you down without any way of getting away? Meh it's ok, he's "kite able"