Most of the Jax players in low elo using on hit 
, 
and 
build. Which is not viable at all for a long time. Most of them keeps feeding . I cannot blame them since most of the new players don't even read the item passives.
This build shouldn't be recommended by the game. I hope this to be updated to a better item like 
.
Zero Shingetsu2 votesWhy are these problematic? Jax still scales with AP, he still benefits from healing, and he still benefits from insane attack speed.
Miss Kaldwin1 votesIt isn't viable. He is not this hybrid attack speed champion no more. He is more of a bruiser with Hp - CDR with damage comes naturally within 
MrFawknSunshine3 votesjust cuz other items are better dont mean he cant scale with those items and those items arent viable.
Miss Kaldwin1 votesYou don't get it. The items Im recommending is so good since 2 years its insane that people still building this low winrate build. Literally no on above gold elo builds hybrid. This is pure evidence people dont read item passives and only build cause they are in recommended build.
Winrate on Jax : 66%
Winrate on Jax : 61%
Winrate on Jax : 54%
Winrate on Jax : 48%
Zero Shingetsu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Saibot Fate,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8QcAKOZz,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-12T20:59:03.119+0000)
It isn't viable. He is not this hybrid attack speed champion no more. He is more of a bruiser with Hp - CDR with damage comes naturally within
He is if you build him that way, isn't he...? I'm confused. If you put a racing engine and tuned steering into a Ford Focus, it's a race car. If you put hybrid attack speed items on Jax, why isn't he a hybrid attack speed champion?
Miss Kaldwin1 votes[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8QcAKOZz,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-10-12T21:39:45.021+0000)
He is if you build him that way, isn't he...? I'm confused. If you put a racing engine and tuned steering into a Ford Focus, it's a race car. If you put hybrid attack speed items on Jax, why isn't he a hybrid attack speed champion?
No man. The Hybrid build was very nice back in the day. Those days are kind o over. Im not saying he cant build those. It is just not his main build anymore.
Zero Shingetsu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Saibot Fate,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8QcAKOZz,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-10-12T21:46:35.024+0000)
No man. The Hybrid build was very nice back in the day. Those days are kind o over. Im not saying he cant build those. It is just not his main build anymore.
I guess I just don't get it. I'm used to games where a build is as viable as the player behind it.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesyou must be below plat and dont know what you are doing.
cuz that is what the OP claimed against majority of the player base
Miss Kaldwin1 votesIts true but a game shouldn't assume if im good at crit damage jax and recommend me that right? Im sure there is someone who is winning games with crit jax.
Zlera2 votesKat has the same issue. It recommends starting boots and getting seekers armguard --> Hourglass for the first item
MrFawknSunshine2 votesyet how is that bad?
boots helps her dodge skill shots and seekers gives her armor and ap which she needs both when she dives into an enemy to kill/do damage
Zlera2 votesThat was an old cat build; it doesn't work on new kat. Starting boots basically throws away your early ability to do damage and getting seekers that early usually won't do anything unless youre against a zed or talon; Boots are not a good starting item. Plus with shunpo she can dodge skillshots anyway if she jumps to a minion or dagger or even the enemy champion(which if she has boots there goes her ability to kill most anyone).
MrFawknSunshine1 votesim not saying its ideal
im saying its not horrible and certain situations it will be viable.
last night i played yorick top vs mord i started boots + 
i got spam pinged to death by my mid laner for my items
mord couldnt hit me with his pull nor get to me when his passive proced cuz i could walk away from him early. that was enough to decide the lane.
i went 5-2-9 where as the mord went 0-10-2 i legit stomped him so bad in lane he never recovered.
Miss Kaldwin1 votesIf its not ideal , it should not be recomended. You can start boots on champs like darius too on "certain" matchups. That doesnt mean the game should recommend this. People below plat has no idea why they bought that itemand they proceed to lose.
MrFawknSunshine1 votespeople below plat dont know anything so even recommending items to them they wont know why they are building it and what to do with it right?
Miss Kaldwin1 votesAre you serious to recommend anyone start with boots right now? [zombie-brand-facepalm]
MrFawknSunshine1 votesdepending on the match up yes
Zero Shingetsu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Saibot Fate,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8QcAKOZz,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2019-10-12T21:34:58.340+0000)
Are you serious to recommend anyone start with boots right now? [zombie-brand-facepalm]
Why not? I do this often to good effect. It's especially useful against opponents like Lux and Morgana.
Mister Attano1 votesYep*[sg-kiko]*
Sukishoo1 votesitem builds rarely ever get updated, it's best not to use those anyway. By now most people have and use their own.
Miss Kaldwin1 votesYou would be surprised how many players use it below plat. They are kind of important for this matter.
Zero Shingetsu1 votesitem builds rarely ever get updated, it's best not to use those anyway. By now most people have and use their own.
Technically most people use someone else's. I think me and maybe you are the only two who create them from scratch.
ZephyrDrake1 votesrecommended items aren't there to provide the absolute best items the champion can build but items that the champion can use and still perform decently. It's there to provide newer players what sort of items are good for a champion. After the new players learn the champion they can then experiment on what is the best on said champion (or just look it up online)
Miss Kaldwin1 votesbut it recommends 48% winrate build. That doesnt sound right. This was like that since 2 years. They are very niche items rn
Meep Man1 votesMainly because Guinsoo's was recently nerfed. It used to be a pretty powerful item on Jax, but it was nerfed. Its more a recent shift in power level of the item than it not being a good item for Jax.