How do I counter people like ahri or syndra

caesarmars·Oct 18, 2016·3 votes·960 views

I played 4 games ad tf today. 3 times I had ahrI and 1 time syndra. Everytime they wrecked me early because I think tf has a shit early game. They would do crazy damage and be able to do repetitively with just one mana item. Even with mana item it's hard to keep them from killing me, trying to cs, and trying to harass because I had no mana even if I used the blue card. It seemed like I would walk to lane get 2 cs and die rinse and repeat. Any tips to counter or help fight. (Everytime I had no jg help at ALL)

29 Comments

NarvuntienOct 18, 20162 votes

Morgana , Kayle

CroozerAidOct 18, 20161 votes

gotta start practice dodging... i guess?

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

I can do that against ahri but syndras stun radius seems so big

1 800 Top LaneOct 18, 20162 votes

It just seems that way because the hitbox is larger than it should be. People complained about this 6 months ago, but now that syndra is in worlds basically 1 shotting people, everyone likes to say "shes balanced".

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

I had ezreal in my syndra game and he got all her balls and 1 shot him

LFGOct 18, 20161 votes

here is some tip

I don't know why you would wanna play ad tf at mid, but if you are, then buy
Buying helps

If you are ad tf, harrassing with Q is a joke, I wouldn't even bother taking Q if I was playing one. If it was draft pick, if the enemy already picked syndra, then don't pick TF, if you already picked TF and the enemy picks Syndra, then don't go ad

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

I don't do ad tf

WoonStruckOct 18, 20161 votes

It was a typo. He meant "playing as tf".

Seemed pretty obvious to me.

That said, he plays AD TF when he has to play ADC, but if he's mid, he goes AP.

Also seems that he plays with other accounts, considering he doesn't have 4 games as TF during any one day in his match history .

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

Ya sorry I didn't realize I misspelled it and I nevery ad tf just ap

DehitayOct 18, 20161 votes

Could always play Malazahar. Free banshee's veil is rather OP. But because the pros don't play him, none of the "do whatever the pros do" crowd play him either.

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

I've tried malzahar he isn't very fun for me but tf is super fun. I was just wondering if there was anything tf could do

1 800 Top LaneOct 18, 20161 votes

Balance is a huge issue at the moment. But just you wait!

In a month or so there will be a patch that breaks everything you know about league of legends.

But if you hang in there, you can spend all year complaining on the forums.

WoonStruckOct 18, 20161 votes

Why are people downvoting someone asking for help?

Are Syndra mains that desperate to not have their main look OP?

Leo1024Oct 18, 20161 votes

whenever i get a scary ap matchup like Veigar , Syndra , or Ahri , i'll play safe and farm until my first item which is usually a mana item like item 3027 or item 3165 , then i buy item 3001 but as soon as i have item 1033 i can start to trade, if you're against Ahri or Syndra , a item 3140 is helpful, you won't be able to fully build it but avoiding long periods of time being stunned will let you dodge the majority of their combos leaving them with no abilities and you with all of them. if you die more than 2 times just farm it out and wait for a gank and make sure to cc as much as possible, hope this helps!

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

I try to farm but when I try to get cs they hardcore harass

Leo1024Oct 18, 20161 votes

who do you generally play as mid?

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

I'm a top main but I'll play kat, yas, xerath, and very recently I've started playing tf

Leo1024Oct 18, 20161 votes

Well kat and yas can easily dodge their skill shots with the dash and shunpo from kat, however if you're still getting hit, hugging turret and farming is your best bet, luckily, xerath and tf can harass and farm from decent range so just practice with them

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

Ya I'm playing mostly tf right now but I just get destroyed from their harass

WoonStruckOct 18, 20161 votes

TF has a pretty rough early game. You mostly want to scrape CS until you can start instant-clearing waves. Try to dip in for blue cards so you can have enough mana for Qs as you're getting pushed in.

Eventually you should be able to CS with your kit without much risk, and your stun will make you a pretty great gank assist no matter how much gold you gathered. That includes ulting to other fights.

Play him as safe as you can, don't even waste Qs early because its almost a waste of mana before rank 3 unless its to get CS that you otherwise would have missed.

Succubús GFOct 18, 20161 votes

Your first mistake is picking tf into a counter? Ooops

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

Ya but I play blind pick because I'm not super good with him

All SkillzzOct 18, 20161 votes

pick Ezreal rush item 3146 1 shot them with E Gunblade active W Q thunderlord before they kill you :P

LankPantsOct 18, 20161 votes

It's kind of hard to give advise on this because you play blind pick. Basically these are hard counter lanes, the correct answer is that you don't first pick TF because he's a weak laner and you don't pick TF into Syndra or Ahri because they're counters. It's only applicable advise for draft though, there's no real way to deal with these harder counter matchups in blind.

The only advise I can give you is to try to use your ult to snowball top or bot, but you're still going to be at a huge disadvantage. That's just the nature of blind pick.

caesarmarsOct 18, 20161 votes

Ok thanks

Friendly RamOct 18, 20161 votes

Morg is a really fun midlaner if you are having trouble against ap bursters. Qweww and just farm until you can nuke them.

AptestOct 18, 20161 votes

On TF, your purpose is shoving from range, avoiding fights with your direct opponent and fighting in side lanes all the time where they can't follow you fast enough.

As TFs opponents, your goal is to make sure all the fights happen on the TF lane.

EhlekarOct 18, 20161 votes

You don't play Twisted Fate to win your lane, you play him to win OTHER lanes, which is why some people consider him garbage in SoloQ.

notmarkedOct 18, 20161 votes

AP malphite against ahri, im serious.

If you just slowly poke her with your maxed Q then ult engage combo her everytime while she is in mid air she can't do anything and will always lose the fight.