When is singed getting nerfed?

Reformed Kensei·9/19/2017, 1:10:42 PM·11 votes·2,208 views

Seriously that champion is anti-fun, unhealthy, dosen't have any counterplay(let's face it getting 1 or more teammates assistance to kill him 1+x vs 1 is not a counterplay, especially in soloq). He is extremly tanky, has a kit designed to run away, while dishing out dmg so high, even if u don't chase him, but he runned past you you're gonna lose 3/4 hp. Way too high winrate. And above all else let me mention it again he is extremly annoying to lane against and there's really no counterplay to it. He can go 0/10 while proxy farming and he's still gonna be tanky and immpossible to lock-down.

EDIT: I'm not even gonna replay to half the answers, since most of the writers didn't even read my post, just jumped to thread seeing the title, just to bash out common knowledge everone knows, which I already adressed. So if you like to share your opinion read the post first.

47 Comments

SwiftKitten889/19/2017, 3:06:36 PM12 votes

the problem with Singed is he is basically a giant mosquito, buzzing around you endlessly, and not matter how many times u swat him he just wont die.

DuskDaUmbreon9/19/2017, 4:08:16 PM7 votes

He's honestly not that strong, unless you're Fiora, or someone else he actually does well against.

He brings little to team fights unless he has Rylai's, except as a distraction. His split-pushing power leaves a lot to be desired, as his damage to turrets is kinda...meh.

He's not exactly the most durable of champions, doesn't have that great of damage, and doesn't even have that great of a kit against many people. He's a gimmick, basically. A pick if you just want to have fun, or if you want to beat one specific champion with him.

His only real strength in the game is being hard to escape or chase. He's good at stopping enemies from chasing, and he's good at chasing down enemies. That's honestly about it.

Kloqdq9/19/2017, 6:24:40 PM5 votes

item 3194 Singed is a problem you say?

Lord of Math9/19/2017, 3:55:37 PM4 votes

You need a little bit of mobility and damage and he dies. Maybe even some CC if you do not have mobility or damage. Tankiness can help too. Who the hell are you playing that you lose most of your HP without chasing? Seriously what top laner is squishy enough to take that much damage, but still does not have the damage to hurt singed? Is he fed because if so, then that statement is useless for your argument.

HR5OdeMImE9/19/2017, 3:41:45 PM3 votes

Played 4 games today. 3 were against Singed... what a bullshit lane.

DragonShea9/19/2017, 6:48:01 PM3 votes

Buzz Buzz motherfuckers.

Tychusfindlay9189/19/2017, 9:27:47 PM3 votes

Nasus I dont know what a singed is, but I do know that facing it usually ends up with me free farming all game and then withering it when it tries to run around.

Bonipherus9/19/2017, 4:07:26 PM2 votes

counterplay vs singed in general: walk backwards and don't chase through poison

counterplay vs singed in team fights: cc him and stop his engage... and walk backwards. you also probably just wasted his long ass cooldowns and now he is pretty useless. especially without ult. if singed doesn't have ult- he isn't singed.

he can't do anything to you unless he is directly on top of you. If he is building ap then he can be killed quickly by just a little focus fire and cc. If he is building tank he does absolutely no damage without ult and you can basically ignore his poison. also pretty much any mr item shits all over singed. ESPECIALLY item 3194 . This item is the hardest counter vs him.

In lane: don't walk in poison. walk backwards if he comes after you and poke him down if you're able to... but walk around the damn poison. Singed is worse as the game goes on so just sit under tower and farm if you can. call for a gank if he tries to proxy but you don't have to prioritize it as... again you get free farm under tower and he is going to fall off.

If you can deny him his proxy and freeze the wave on him he will get almost no gold and that's really shitting on him. later if he is proxying you should also be able to waveclear quickly and not have to worry about minions hitting your tower.

deny his proxy and kill him lvl1 by having your team (or even just you and your jungler) waiting for it. Proxying is high risk-medium reward anyway.

Singed is a champion with little agency to make things happen. If he gets a kill it's not because he outplayed someone it's because they fucked up. Again, Singed requires other players to make mistakes in order to succeed.

Edit: If riot are dumb enough to nerf this champion then you can bet it'll be a patch or two after the skin release.

Meep Man9/19/2017, 10:01:52 PM2 votes

People really need to realize that Singed isn't a champion you deal with by doing the standard stuff because you have to play Singed by not doing the standard stuff. Singed changes the game because he doesn't play like anyone else and you can't play against him like anyone else of course. You deal with Singed by out maneuvering him and anticipating where he will split push/proxy. Singed requires smart tactical awareness that many other champions don't force the enemy team to have. Against a decent Deathball that knows when and where to strike and can anticipate the enemy, Singed is minor annoyance at best. Against a scattered enemy team that doesn't coordinate and simply goes by "send some random one of us to deal with him once we see where he is", Singed absolutely dominates the playing field.

WoonStruck9/19/2017, 4:45:09 PM2 votes

I never have a problem with Singed. His update made him easier to deal with. He can't cheese with ghost, DFT, sometimes ignite now.

MLDzXnRRR9/19/2017, 3:28:29 PM2 votes

LeeSin can kill singed easily early, if he tries to proxy

TimX24968B9/19/2017, 5:14:49 PM2 votes

how to avoid half these issues:

rule #3 of league of legends: DONT CHASE SINGED.

What Is Smite9/19/2017, 6:23:31 PM2 votes

Meet Mordekaiser , one champ who doesn't care if singed proxies you because if he comes into your range he will burn to death through DFT, Liandries, and his ult which does %HP max damage scaling upwards to 70% (Depending on the amount of AP you have) add ontop of that the true damage tick from Blue pot which applies on every single tick of damage from your R. Singed doesn't live long enough to get a lead on Mordekaiser or even come even.

1ampoars4/27/2018, 2:31:35 PM1 votes

U guys just need to chill and understand that pretty much every ranged champion counters singed but he shouldnt be nerfed because he is fun and is one of the only champions with a unique game style. if you dont agree 1v1 me

BubbaV9/19/2017, 3:11:26 PM1 votes

Once his new skin goes out of hype

Late For Tea9/19/2017, 3:56:49 PM1 votes

He shouldn't get nerfed, his kit just needs an entire rework. I completely agree with you on how annoying it is to lane against him, and pretty much ruins the game for the lane opponent. He is the #1 anti-fun champion, as his entire kit revolves around avoiding interaction. You can try to engage on him, but he will just run away and damage you while doing so. He turns the toplane into a game of PvE, a game of endlessly clearing minion waves.

His kit is unhealthy, and goes against the design philosophy of Riot. I don't understand why they haven't reworked him yet.

Joseraph9/19/2017, 5:04:34 PM1 votes

When people play him Kappa

buPPDrmXEO9/19/2017, 6:03:48 PM1 votes

Just played as Renekton vs Singed. Stomped him early, decimated him like 5 times, but he ofc did his stupid little "proxy" thing and managed to farm 2 waves. Suddenly, after some time I literally did 0 damage to him despite buying BC and Titanic, I couldn't even scratch him, only because he went full tank and was even in CS with me.

But I guess it's not a problem with Singed, but how the tank stats work.

Nyarlathοtep9/19/2017, 2:58:26 PM1 votes

Yes, yes, YES, YES. Please riot do it.