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Context on the Poppy nerf on the PBE ?

Torgal·4/17/2018, 9:38:07 PM·4 votes·2,512 views

For people who didn't know, Riot put this on the PBE :

Poppy

Movespeed lowered from 345 to 340

Steadfast Presence (W)
    Movement speed lowered from 32/34/36/38/40% to 30% at all ranks
    Armor and MR lowered from 15% to 8%

Heroic Charge (E)
    Range increased from 425 to 475
    Initial damage lowered from 60/10/100/120/140 to 50/70/90/110/130
    terrain hit damage lowered from 60/10/100/120/140 to 50/70/90/110/130

Keeper's Verdict (R)
    [Effect Changed] Uncharged Keeper's Verdict knockup duration now .75 seconds at all ranks
    [Tooltip Changed] Now notes: "Enemies hit with a charged Keeper's Verdict are untargetable."
        [Looking into this further to see if uncharged hits are still untargetable]

Can we have some context for why nerf her ?

9 Comments

Ahristocats4/17/2018, 9:40:46 PM2 votes

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    [Effect Changed] Uncharged Keeper's Verdict knockup duration now .75 seconds at all ranks

why are they breaking her

Step Sis Lux4/17/2018, 9:41:46 PM2 votes

loll i thought she is trash and they gonna buff her xD

Hellhammer4/18/2018, 12:14:08 AM2 votes

so i pretty much always play poppy, mainly down bottom almost never up top. I feel like her rework went well until top started to be more of a duelist lane and with conquerer i never want to go up top again.

the thing i'm most addicted about playing poppy is the fact of catching someone with my wall slam and my adc/other laner putting on the hurt.

i used to think poppy was outclassed by like everything, until i started messing with other tanks, and it was probably last month i was talking with friends about how her speed is what makes her, her.

these changes feel like they're made by a drunk person who's never played poppy.

playing poppy for me was always waiting for the best time to punish an enemy when they make a mistake and get to close to the wall for poppy to be sucsessful she needs speed to get there or she'll lose her oppertunity everytime. this was the same even with her old version

BigBallz1231004/19/2018, 3:41:19 AM2 votes

Good job Riot, you're nerfing a champ who isnt op whatsoever, but you dont nerf irelia, pantheon or any other top laner. This champ is fine as it is, it isnt op at all. Riot games are just dumb asses.

Targus1655/9/2018, 11:37:42 PM1 votes

I used to only play poppy in the jungle. The champions already been pushed out of toplane because of the "bright idea" that is conqueror. The fact that Riot removed the bonus movespeed from her w is just a bad balance team making bad decisions, as usual. As said, that movespeed is vital for her to be able to punish people with her E. Poppy jungle allows you to make full use of her movespeed and e to help set up some of the best dives I've ever seen and or done, but that's apparently too strong in riots eyes so basically nerfing poppy into the ground again seems to be the best solution to that. I honestly don't think riot thinks about the champs they nerf before they nerf them because as far as I can tell, they nerf the champs who are weak and buff the champs who are strong so that they stay in meta and the others just disappear from the world.

SmithYorkinster4/19/2018, 2:24:01 PM1 votes

I main the hell out of Poppy and this really makes me m/sad. There is literally 0 context for this nerf. She is outclassed by almost any other tank and even against certain fighters (which she used to out-scale and beat), since "conqueror" came, she can't do much. Just look at the fucking statistics, she is currently placed 36 out of 46 considered "top champions". The only thing where she goes above the average is in DEATHS where she is the third top laner who dies the most.

If they are considering this just because the ulti will stop making enemies "untargetable" when not charged, the nerfs FAR outweigh this "pseudo"-buff. Poppy already has 0 pushing power (unless you spam your Q and risk missing last hits like hell) and, unless the enemy jungler comes in with a dash on her steadfast, any enemy gank where she is pushed further than half lane is almost certain death; loosing that movement speed and 8% extra tankiness is gonna completely be the end of her.

(EDIT) This can be seen has trying to transpose poppy again more to jungle and support (with the buff to e range they want her to play-make more?) but sacrificing all of what's left of her effectiveness in her main role for that, is just dumb.

WzqdQsZwQA4/17/2018, 9:51:45 PM1 votes

https://i.imgur.com/9YHSLkj.png i think

nartin94/21/2018, 6:28:43 PM1 votes

they removed the damage changes to e and changed the w passive from 8% to 10%. Looks like riot cares about us. This is a buff. if they kept her movement speed unchanged she would be broken