where dem zed buffs

SHadYdArkness··3 votes·890 views

7.3 Zed buffs delayed....

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Slythion3 votes

people don't like it when Zed is strong (don't get me wrong, he's definitely weak right now), but his kit specializes in a very specific "fuck this singular guy" more than most assassins, so he get's a lot of hate

edit for that boards posters that confuse unfun kits with unhealthy balance: http://champion.gg/champion/zed/Middle

zed's sitting at a pretty weak 47.75% win rate and still a nearly 11% play rate, with 44% of all those games being played by players with 200+ games of experience on him.

SHadYdArkness1 votes

yeah but the passive ad

Slythion1 votes

I don't quite understand

Joseph Gladstone2 votes

i giggled

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

This should be in Memes & Games section.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

Hell no he does not need buffs in any shape or form.

Slythion1 votes

why not?

SnugglePuggle941 votes

Because he's already strong as fuck in my opinion, no matter what his win rate is.

Slythion1 votes

I think you just don't like fighting his kit, due to it's "fuck this single guy in particular" style

and that's alright, we can have preferences. But in terms of the game as whole in relation to his current balance, every single stat screams that he's underpowered

whether or not he should be buffed back is personal preference, but don't confuse kit toxicity with being "op", it's a very common and incredibly misleading thing to do among the boards

SnugglePuggle941 votes

I don't fucking care. His kit toxicity = op in my mind. When a champ who can fuck you over and not get punished for it is able to be created in the game, he's never going to be "balanced," especially with his get out of jail free card ultimate.

Slythion1 votes

alright bud

Maximum Morde2 votes

Never buff zed.

GankedByWindows1 votes

What exactly is wrong with him now? He is pretty balanced as he is

Slythion1 votes

how so?

Lauchmelder1 votes

How not so?

Slythion1 votes

He's sitting at a substantially low win rate despite a nearly 44% of his playerbase having 200+ games of experience on him, while maintaining a fairly high win rate

considering this, you wouldn't think a 47.75% win rate is balanced for most champions

Lauchmelder1 votes

You can't buff him directly though.

Right now he feels fair to play against (one of, if not THE only assassin with this trait).

If he would get buffed it would make him too strong. Slightly nerfing his biggest nemesis could work.

Slythion1 votes

You confuse champion strength with kit fairness

we are talking about game balance here

Right now he feels fair to play against

which means this statement isn't really relevant. If Zed could insta-gib anyone on the enemy team and still can't close out games, he'd be considered unfun but underpowered as well.

If he would get buffed it would make him too strong.

by here you really meant: "If he would get buffed it would make him too unfun"

too many people confuse an unfun kit with being op, it's a common misconception here on the boards. I agree with you though, I wouldn't want Zed to get buffed for the simple fact that I don't find his kit fun to play against. I'm completely alright with Zed being below-par

GankedByWindows1 votes

Why not? His winrate is below 48%, which is great for a high skillcap champion. His lethality items got nerfed a good bit and are no longer overbearing. He doesn't show up in every game or get banned every game. I don't see why he needs a buff.

Slythion1 votes

a low win-rate is alright for a high skill-cap champion because you assume new players are going to draw the win rate down.

75% of zed players have 100+ games of experience, 44% of zed players have 200+ games of experience. He has a huge playerbase of experienced players and yet doesn't even manage a 48% win ratio.

He is still played/banned in 17% of games, meaning he's a playerbase favorite. He doesn't even scale well by game length

Personally, I'd rather him not get buffs. I don't like playing against Zed as a champion, but I still think he's at least slightly below-par.

Tbh, I'm just making this argument because too many people confuse an unfun kit with being synonymous to "op". Zed could be allowed to insta-gib anyone on the team and that'd be unfun, but if he can't close out games then it's not op, it's just a common misconception that I felt like fighting today.

Big Lincoln1 votes

mage mains don't like melee being able to lane vs them, let alone be strong against them

The Sword Saint1 votes

I wouldn't bother man. With some champions it's pointless to try and point out their weaknesses to this community even if they happen to have sub 48% winrate at that time.

Like riven, zed is the type of champion who people will see is weak and go 'good, I hope he never gets played again'.

It's just how it is.

Lauchmelder2 votes

I actually enjoy laning vs Zed, but he sure as hell doesn't need a buff.

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