Kindred buffs

I didnt like when they removed the healing from kindred, especially when they removed a lot of dmg of Q. I dont even play kindred, but i guess ezreal/tf is a "better" jungler

While they were annoying, I hate seeing champions gutted and left in the dark until Riot are bothered doing something about it. But yes, they were pretty oppressive. I'd like to see slight buffs over time on them so they aren't incredibly weak.

Not gonna lie, when she was viable she was complete cancer to play against... Another example of a degenerate kit. Keep her in the dumpster with Nidalee.

They're nowhere, because Riot decided she doesn't need them.

Can't disagree tbh.

A lot of people will say; "She's fine because dedicated Kindred mains can do fine with her." Well, as a (last season) Platinum II Kindred / Anivia duo-trick, I can safely say that she isn't fine - even if I do fine with her.

Kindred has suffered the same problem that Sejuani suffered back in Season 4. Items and slightly overtuning made her effectively overpowered, and in turn - all of Kindred's abilities were nerfed, and so were her base stats - and then the items she relies(d) on were also nerfed.

Right now, she's simply suffering from too many nerfs; First: Base AD lowered by (I think) 4, Q cooldown reduced from 2 at all ranks when in W to 6/5/4/3/2 Second: Ultimate changed to not be castable under any allied champion within range, and only castable underneath Kindred herself. Third: Q damage nerfed by 15 at each rank, "compensated" by damage increasing by 5 per stack (Q becomes obsolete late game anyway.) E slow reduced. Fourth: W heal removed, replaced with single-target jungle maim (useless effect past Lv.3), base armour reduced by 7 (from 24 to 17)

They should say in the same boat with until rework. I don't want to pick only or just because i need to duel their cancerous invades.

This! Kindred is so hard to play right now and unlike some other champs, can't go to a solo lane. This champ already had low AA range, heavy dependency on marks and attack speed but then riot decided to nerf them to oblivion. It's just sad.

They will get buffs when they get more direct counter-play. If they want to do something that isn't taking the enemies' camps, they'll do it and you can't stop it. Maybe if E becomes a skill-shot or something. The numbers are kept as low as they are for a reason.

Please return her heal. It was fun. The current kindred, regardless of how strong or weak they are, just feel boring in comparison. I really enjoyed the heal and felt it had a thematic relationship with her lore and stuff. To replace it with such a boring mechanic, just a passive attack speed slow or something? What a shame...

I play a lot of kindred and i can say without a doubt the last thing she needs is a buff.

I agree with you, Kindred is very weak in my opinion, with a high skill floor and a not much better skill ceiling

Unless you can get ahead at the start Kindred is almost useless

What's a Kindred again?

I love Kindred and I do think they need a small buff, maybe something to increase their sustain. Obviously they can't go back to their OP state, but I don't think it'd be too bad if her base attack stat was raised a little, they get a LITTLE bit of healing from their Q against champions, or maybe the cooldowns on her E and Q were reduced.

Disclaimer: I'm super new to LOL, so my opinions are less valuable and informed then others, so I apologize if I've said something obviously silly.

she still has a good win ratio in plat and above, doesn't need any buffs and there are a shitload of champions that need em more than she does.

i personally feel like no champion with an infinite scaling stat should receive buffs. fuck that