Black Market Brawlers and Doombots In Rotating Game Mode

Wolverine Batman·Jun 12, 2016·137 votes·17,113 views

Since Riot decided to start the new Rotating Game Mode I was super excited, since I loved playing the Black Market Brawlers and was expecting it to show up. It's been a while since the Rotating Game Mode has started but there is no sign of Black Market Brawlers. Also I haven't played Doombots. And I was expecting that they would bring it back. But it haven't shown up yet either. What do you guys think? Should Riot Bring these modes back? I would love to have these modes since they are fun. What are you thoughts? Is there any mode I am missing? If so then, lemme know.

78 Comments

Streetlight ManJun 12, 201630 votes

They don't need to bring doom bots back, they just need to put a garen in every bush in patch 6.12

RiotL4T3NCYJun 12, 201666 votes

I can see this conversation now:

L4T3NCY: Yo guys, we should just put a Doom Garen in every bush from 6.12 onwards. Meddler: Omg why didn't we think of this sooner... (✿˵•́ ‸ •̀˵) FeralPony: But I did... AND IT'S ALREADY DONE! (flex) L4T3NCY / Meddler: My hero (swoon)

-End scene-

RendarkanJun 12, 20162 votes

Bushmaster Garen skin. His sword can be a hedge.

Dom maverickJun 13, 20161 votes

Dude Yes that will be hilarious.

RendarkanJun 13, 20161 votes

His taunt when use happens in a random bush near an opponent and his base is him summoning a bush and jumping into it.

Hyrum GraffJun 12, 20166 votes

{quoted}

I can see this conversation now:

L4T3NCY: Yo guys, we should just put a Doom Garen in every bush from 6.12 onwards. Meddler: Omg why didn't we think of this sooner... (✿˵•́ ‸ •̀˵) FeralPony: But I did... AND IT'S ALREADY DONE! (flex) L4T3NCY / Meddler: My hero (swoon)

-End scene-

Doom garen = URF garen with perma-E (doesn't affect ability to cast Q) and all enemies are villains.

AMYS GRAVEJun 13, 201620 votes

Did you just fanfic rioters?

I like you.

TurquoiseYoshiJun 13, 201611 votes

Not just fanficing Rioters. Fanficing Rioters, including himself.

DecritJun 13, 20162 votes

CertainlyT : But let' s make his spinning attack push people counterclockwise. And deal true damage!

MelledoneusJun 13, 20166 votes

This is so inaccurate. I don't see a three hit passive.

DecritJun 13, 20161 votes

That' s his silence

RiotL4T3NCYJun 12, 201614 votes

I touched on this in the recent Ask Riot post we did in our Community section. I'll add it again below so no click required. <3

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/community/q/rgm-ip-and-tons-damage-ask-riot

When will we see new game modes in RGM?

We're still forging the path at the moment with our current stable of modes, and we’re carefully looking at how each one is received and how people are engaging with it. Unfortunately, we can’t tell you exactly when your favorite mode, like say Doom Bots, is coming back but we can talk about how we’re selecting each mode to include in RGM. So far the modes we’ve included in RGM represent the widest spread of gameplay with strong engagement, URF for example, is a mode we consistently hear about from players, which is why we chose it among our first releases. That doesn’t mean RGM is a popularity contest. Any game mode that we've previously released is a potential candidate for the RGM queue. If your favourite mode isn't in there yet, there's a chance it will be eventually. We also want to try and offer something that’s updated, so as we look at other game modes, it’s important we deliver something more than nostalgia. As you’ve seen with Definitely Not Dominion, we don’t just want to throw old modes into the queue. We try to keep everyone updated on what modes are coming in the near future - so make sure you check in weekly to see what’s coming up.

Photos of GhostsJun 12, 20162 votes

If your favourite mode isn't in there yet, there's a chance it will be eventually.

Why a chance and not almost a certainty?

RiotL4T3NCYJun 12, 201615 votes

Not all modes hit the notes we want. The gameplay might be a bit flat, engagement is weak, we end up doing a better job in a different new mode, etc. We'd rather spend the time improving proven successes and building new modes that could potentially be much better, than burning time on something that's already missed the mark a bit. That doesn't mean we might not try to improve and bring them back though at some point, which is why it's 'a chance' and not 'definite'.

RendarkanJun 12, 20169 votes

Can you put Hexakill back on SR? Its way too slow and cramped on TT.

PÿröJun 13, 20165 votes

agreed, except it being slow on TT. But I preferred it on Rift

CrazedPorcupineJun 13, 20169 votes

Riot will never put Hexakill on SR because the only difference between Hexakill and Normal League on SR is that there's a 2nd duo lane.

what you deserveJun 13, 20169 votes

or a second jungle, or a trio lane. the possibilities are endless

MasalarJun 13, 20169 votes

Second jungle is a no go because of xp changes. Trio lane means opponents get an xp advantage. I mean, sure, they can be tried...but nah they can't.

CrazedPorcupineJun 13, 20163 votes

except not really, the best/most efficient spread of XP and gold is by having a 2nd support up in the top lane.

Xenos11111Jun 13, 20162 votes

Might not seem like much but one extra person per team can change the game dynamic massively. On top of that even if it's on TT, there's no reason why it shouldn't be available on SR at least in custom games.

PÿröJun 13, 20161 votes

Hexakill started on SR.

CrazedPorcupineJun 13, 20164 votes

Except riot found it too boring and not different enough from traditional 5v5 SR which is why the 2nd time around they put it in TT. And they found that the chaos of 6v6 on TT was more fitting for the gamemode which is why they keep Hexakill on TT instead of putting it on SR.

Mad King HadesJun 13, 20165 votes

I have the solution, Do 10v10 in SR. That way it is proportionate to hexakill in TT.

XeroKimoJun 13, 20161 votes

Just play 300 heroes lol jk jk kappa kappa

ElikainJun 13, 20164 votes

Uh what? I play Hexakill on TT because it's way faster than a SR match. Was basically my way of grinding IP for these 2 week days.

Photos of GhostsJun 12, 20162 votes

Sure, but then why do you not say "We've not included gamemode X because it failed in Y"?

Duke AnaxJun 13, 20161 votes

Have you thought about trying Blackmarket Brawlers on Butchers Bridge?

DarkRitualJun 13, 20161 votes

Having only one lane of minions makes the minion portion of that game mode pretty much null.

SohleksJun 13, 20162 votes

Interesting...

So which ones have not hit the note?

DarkRitualJun 13, 20162 votes

Nemesit draft most likely. I loved it, but the tryhard saltlords hated it with a passion.

KoboldJun 13, 20164 votes

May I ask in what Way BMB didn't meet expectations?

I do feel there should be a mode like BMB every year so the players can use some interesting items the developers are messing around with and possibly see them in the future regular SR mode. It would be beneficial to both the developers (mass testing of items and their effects together) and the players (know what the devs may have in mind for future items).

AS for doom-bots the problem is with code modulation of the current game engine as the core reason for the difficulty in bringing it back tied with the sheer number of new champions in the game, correct?

I personally would love t see BMB back even if it is just the items testing form and not the minions, as this would help to possibly add some new spicy items to the game.

what you deserveJun 13, 20161 votes

yeah didn't everyone kind of hate bmb the first time it was there?

DeadSpace3WinerFeb 6, 20171 votes

No a lot of people liked it. Why would you hate it?

Xenos11111Jun 13, 20162 votes

I've seen Doombots and BMB being requested a LOT, and honestly they would be a lot more fun than some of the current modes in my opinion (e.g. Poro King)

I mean, the point of rotating queue isn't how much it's played but how much people enjoy playing it right? Or is it only statistics that matter :/

AMYS GRAVEJun 13, 20165 votes

NEMISIS draft?

I think nemisis draft did a lot to improve champion diversity at the time because people realized how strong some of the underplayed champions really were. It's also quite fun trying to run comps that are non meta for a little bit with the all support team, or the all immobile adc team.

It Hertz When IPJun 13, 20162 votes

This. The only thing nowadays is that the removal of Blasting Smite means that you actually might not have a viable jungler.

Spacesuit SpiffJun 14, 20161 votes

It was kinda a solved problem though, you just give them similar adcs. Theres no possible comp worse than one that has no utility and gets shut down by a wardens mail.

AMYS GRAVEJun 14, 20161 votes

There is variation in their builds though, nohting like seeing tank lucian top lane with support ashe and jungle jinx.

And the full adc team wasn't the only strategy used in nemisis draft, not even close.

QuephaJun 13, 20162 votes

{quoted}

Not all modes hit the notes we want. The gameplay might be a bit flat, engagement is weak, we end up doing a better job in a different new mode, etc. We'd rather spend the time improving proven successes and building new modes that could potentially be much better, than burning time on something that's already missed the mark a bit. That doesn't mean we might not try to improve and bring them back though at some point, which is why it's 'a chance' and not 'definite'.

Can you give an approximation of how Snowshow Downtown fares on the note spectrum? That was one of my favorite modes because it was a great way to practice laning which I consider to be one of my weakest areas.

MansanaJun 13, 20161 votes

Like for "chance" it will be more like what you did with Dominion. Slight game mode changes to make it unique rather than some iterative game? BM Brawlers definitely could use some more work and a slight revamp to make it different whether it would be on the aram map or SR. I can definitely see where you are coming from. You don't want to make the game stale, and rather you'd want to create new experiences no matter how many iterations it takes. Personally still waiting on a SR map that can use snowball as a summoner spell. Get Ice drake in there, etc. There could be a lot of potential for bigger maps.

RaxistaichoJun 13, 20161 votes

{quoted}

We'd rather spend the time improving proven successes and building new modes that could potentially be much better, than burning time on something that's already missed the mark a bit.

Then why are Hexakill Twisted Treeline and Poro King in the Rotating mode?

Lazypeon100Jun 13, 20161 votes

Hey, I know I'm late to the party and you probably won't respond to this (you're a busy guy, no hard feelings!) But I wanted to express that I actually really enjoyed doom bots and would love to see that mode return. It was a fun way to have PVE, be competitive as a team, but not feel awful if you lost. Teams felt like they were very friendly, and it made the game mode so much more fun, even during a loss.

I hope you guys consider the social aspect as well, because that is what I loved modt about doombots.

PaladinNOJun 13, 20161 votes

I'll add it again below so no click required. <3

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/community/q/rgm-ip-and-tons-damage-ask-riot

Sorry, but a certain someone's feelings would be hurt if I don't click once - but only once! Mordekaiser

It Hertz When IPJun 12, 20166 votes

I believe Doombots' reason for not returning is that since SR and almost all the champions have been heavily updated since the mode last happened, Doombots would basically have to be rebuilt from scratch, as opposed to the other featured game modes that just have to be temporarily activated.

Mecha MaIphiteJun 12, 20163 votes

I really want doom bots to come back. Last time it was there, I barely played PvP and couldn't even beat the level 3 ones.

HyperZEROXLJun 13, 20161 votes

I still have doom bot phobia from those level 3s... [slayer-jinx-unamused]

SteveBuuscheemeeJun 13, 20163 votes

Can we remove worthless poroking from rotation? That is just crappy aram with a fat ugly blob on it. Snowball is already in normal ARAM so there isn't enough diversity from a normal Howling Abyss game.

dragon n1njaJun 13, 20161 votes

agree 100%

BastionKrossJun 13, 20162 votes

I disagree. Simply being able to choose your champ (as opposed to having a random one) is a small but significant difference. Now you can actually have sane team comps, the ability to not get stuck with lower tier ARAM champs, and you don't have to worry about dodges every other queue. Just from that one change.

As an ARAM fan, Poro King is like a slice of heaven every 7-8 weeks. All the benefits of ARAM (no need to cs, no slow, boring laning phase/jungle, rarely any 40+ minute games) with much less drawbacks (rolling an armor stacking champion against a magic damage heavy team, being an all melee team against a Ziggs/Lux, rolling Eve at any time). Poro King also got champion mastery before ARAM will receive it, which is a very subtle flavor of bullshit but beside the point.

The actual Poro King isn't the main draw of the mode, being able to choose your own champs in a game mode that almost can't have a meta is.