Malzahar's Passive

Short Jokes R Us··1 votes·380 views

What was the point of it again?


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-69-notes

"Malzahar faces a constant dilemma: never use his abilities in lane or push constantly. This playstyle causes Malzahar to be very binary and non interactive; either he has enough AP to drop his spells on a wave and leave lane or he slowly pushes out, leaving him exposed to constant ganks."

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Aside from the inaccurate description of old Malzahar's laning (Which was an art imo)

The part after that:

"As well, the nature of his ultimate - cancelable by any CC - makes Malzahar’s power curve binary by necessity: you either stop his channel or somebody dies."

As well as:

"In both cases, what Malzahar needs is leeway; a brief window of protection."

Basically saying that they want Malzahar to gain safety in exchange for less power.

A way to ult while still being safe.

From high risk-high reward to another safe niche champion.

Etc. Etc.


My question now is...

How does the current passive accomplish this?

The answer:

It doesn't.


Now why is that?

Because the shield that is suppose to keep your suppression up when you decide to go in will be down because it can be activated by nearly everything - Whether it be spell or auto attack -


And the question now is:

How would the passive be changed to accomplish its goal?

Which leads to:

What... Stops... Malzahar's... Ult...?

#Hard CC


9 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i tell you what... lets make a compromise in exchange for the passive change you want i want to be able to use summoner 1 for his ult.

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7ZNsNlEQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-25T06:24:44.007+0000)

i tell you what... lets make a compromise in exchange for the passive change you want i want to be able to use summoner 1 for his ult.

Why? Its a suppression.

By that logic you should be able to cleanse EVERY suppression... suppression was even created to counter cleanse o.O

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

well to get something you gotta give something that is how compromises work ....

the op wants to make it where his passive is only effected by hard cc when he basically gets a free item 3102 as a passive

and his ult would have a shorter cd then summoner 1 anyways

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7ZNsNlEQ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-25T06:33:58.289+0000)

well to get something you gotta give something that is how compromises work ....

the op wants to make it where his passive is only effected by hard cc when he basically gets a free item 3102 as a passive

and his ult would have a shorter cd then summoner 1 anyways

Its about precedence... not to mention malzahar is CCd as well and has 0 lethality on his own against a non-30%HP target.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but cant have everything.. there has to be some give to his kit... choose the passive the OP wants and give the option to cleanse his ult or leave as is

Short Jokes R Us1 votes

You mean other than being affected by damage and soft cc normally while only negating hard cc?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

im just stating if you want the changes to his passive the as you stated then they need to be able to use summoner 1 vs his ult

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7ZNsNlEQ,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-25T06:59:05.035+0000)

im just stating if you want the changes to his passive the as you stated then they need to be able to use summoner 1 vs his ult

You realize that making it work ONLY ON HARD CC is less good than what it is now, right? Its a nerf already, or are you so blind in your hatred for an extremely weak champion that you dont understand what this change actually is?

Paroe1 votes

We all know malzahar was a victim of one of the largest nerfs in the history of the game. We all know malzahar lost a clearly defined niche of which he was the only one who filled. We all know malzahar became nothing more than an auxiliary support.

the only change i can accept is the current voidlings. He needs a reversion to pre-rework for his Q, E, and R. Then he needs a new passive. A spell blade would fit his playstyle perfectly, as well as de-incentivise the riot narrative that malzahar was incapable of aggression.

Hell, the rework was supposed to "make malzahar more aggressive" but failed miserably and only MULTIPLIED his passivity.

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