There has to be some ways to prevent Zed!

KT08··8 votes·1,210 views

After RITO changed the R of Zed which is no way to prevent except Hourglass. I'm not a high ranker, I'm just Gold, but I feel frustrated when facing Zed. Playing as ADC or Mid or Support or Non-tank champions. Zed is now way too strong, just relying on the Explosion of his Ultimate is ENOUGH. I was playing ADC, he dived into our team and Ultimate me, then 1E, accepted his death but killed me. So, the combo was just simply R and E. And I'm dead! Even Janna gave me E and activated Iron Solari. This is around 30 minutes. How do I put this? Simply I could not be able to play! COULD NOT! What could I do? Guardian Angel did not helping at all. His ultimate's cooldown was like 30 seconds, I could not go alone, if I walked with Janna, we both would die, if I walked with a Tank, he just targets me. Explosion of R, as I estimated was more than just 900 HP. Gangplank with 2800 HP was killed with 1 Combo and 2 As, Sterak's Gage could not keep him alive. Even Cho'Gath full Tank or 3000 HP late-game Jax got smoked by Zed's combo. He isn't an Assassin anymore if he can do that to a full tank right? The problem now is RITO is trying to make Zed more OP by adding Pure Attack stat every time he kills somebody with higher Attack. So if he's so lucky to just KS one of the strongest of the other team, that should put an END to the opponent's ADC or Support or Mid. I think this is not fair. AP Mid can prevent Zed easily with Hourglass, Gladiator with Gage and Guardian Angel then they can continue to fight, but how about ADC, 1 second off the battle and then you're surrounded by the other team, dead anyway, why bother buying Guardian Angel? Guardian Angel does not work during a team combat. I found it's more STUPID than other Assassin Champions. RITO should make an item for ADC to handicap Zed, high price, low stat but with the option to prevent or minimize the damage or maybe just lower his Skills damage to a certain degree. In Gold rank below, I'm feel frustrated and whenever facing Zed, I just wanna quit the game if my teammates feed him. I'm talking as I was not the 3 people who banning champion. Or Normal Game, not even Rank. Blind Pick.

27 Comments

78750242DEL13 votes

Maybe you're just that behind so Zed can burst you with R and E only. But CC counters him really hard.

sit kid1 votes

This

Alot of people don't pay respect to Zed being in a solo lane where he can soak all the XP by himself, so he is usually 1-2 levels ahead of you as an adc.

All i can say, just gtfo when you dont know where he is and only fight him in teamfights

However, it is not like he can oneshot you as the only champ. Viktor, Syndra all have alot of burst as well, but it's just because it's Zed, his mid game is far surperior, but his lategame is awful.

Try stalling the game out or something

greysand1 votes

im realy tired of that answer, cc counters basicaly everything, nasus dies if u focus cc on him, soraka dies if u focus cc on her, renekton dies if u focus cc on him, even olaf, that counters directly cc, dies if u focus cc on him, because U RE FOCUSING HIM, the fun part is that most of champs that re countered by cc, have means to evade or escape even when cc, zed, fails the entry and gets cc, click on r again, shadow that has 4/5 secs of cd and, well, 2 flashes or u dont catch him, also, ult that makes him imposible to stun, etc, yi, u counter him with cc, but has a skill that makes him imposible to slow, and also a skill that makes him imposible to hit...and most champs that have a cc that can hit him while in q, die with 2 att + pasive, sincerely, that excuse of a counter is lame, cc counters everything but 2 things, morgana shield and olaf ragnarok, and still that 2 champs re relatively easy to kill if u compare them with most assasins, that do 3 times more damage, and usually have means of escape

Sona x Rubick2 votes

of course there is a way

-kill him

-stay with your baby support

tooo spicy2 votes

the maximum damage you can do with 1E and ultimate is like 1k. Stop lying. You don't need to be a high ranker to do simple math. Or you don't belong in gold.

So 2800hp gangplank died from a full combo and 2 auto attacks? That takes him 3 seconds to pop ultimate. There are champions, with similar items, who can kill a 2800hp gangplank with no auto attacks in 1 or 2 seconds.

So you think Zed can kill a full tank? Build item 3068 item 3143 item 3075 item 3157 item 3026 item 3102 OH LOOK, Zed can't kill you anymore. Stop lying you weren't full tank.

Jax with 3k hp died to Zed combo? Jax can spin stick, so there must've been no auto attack. He can't do that much damage with just spells even if he lands full combo. Stop lying

Sup im Carrier2 votes

You make no sense lol.

tooo spicy2 votes

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You make no sense lol.

wasn't intended for idiots

Sup im Carrier1 votes

Such manners ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

tooo spicy2 votes

better than yours

GamblerOfLives1 votes

mi inglish sux, mi supid?

BIackfox1 votes

3000hp jax? Lol

Grimspeake1 votes

Dodge his q and kill him. Zeds fairly easy to outplay if u have some mobility. Tbh vayne has mad outplay potential on him

N Pelosi1 votes

Guardian Angel, Zhonyas, build tank or bruiser instead of straight damage, Counterpick, or ban.

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

No way Zed will 100-0 you with just R-E

J Eevo1 votes

I do see R-AA-E (+Duskblade) pop a squishy quite often, and with Zed not being even that fed.

Tentacle Advisor1 votes

If I were in that type of scenario, as the adc (assuming I was also 30 minutes or so into the game), I would have built both a Death's Dance and a Frozen Heart. Now, don't get me wrong, this isn't a very good idea, as you do sacrifice a bit of damage by buying an armor item as an adc, but I found a pretty neat quote, a couple months ago that stated:

"a dead DPS is no DPS at all"

I actually enjoy this quote a lot because it does make sense. You can have all the damage in the world, but what's the point of having all that damage, if you're dead?

By 30 minutes (or more, depending on the game), you'd generally have at the very least 1-2 items completed (more commonly being Infinity Edge and an Attack Speed Item), so buying these items shouldn't hurt you too bad. (At least, no more than Zed already is.) While the Frozen Heart's armor and passive, along with Death's Dance's passive, reduce Zed's burst potential on you, you also get the benefit of the Frozen Heart's passive also reducing the opposing ADC's damage to you due to the 'decreased attack speed' debuff.

This is just how I imagine going about it. Of course, this isn't a full-proof solution, but simply a possible fix to an annoying/repetitive problem.

Spoofghoul2 votes

exactly

i commonly used item 3110 as a mana item on mages but they also have more access to health items and can really benefit from the mana and cdr

For adc's though when defending vs the likes of a Zed i would suggest grabbing item 3143 or/and then get the new spell shield AD item EoN

Isit ideal dps wise? no, but you get a lot more tanky because you get to block a spell which vastly reduces burst and you get a lot of armor and health too to prevent being bursted it also give crit/as reduction to help with that but the best part is the active slow which acts as a self peel it allows you to slow that zed for 4 seconds which then allows you to move away so he can only land the R and maybe 1 basic, Q or E before you are out of range

Your armor and health prevent you from getting popped and he is now slowed so if he doesn't immediately blink back he is easy to cc for your team

Silverjust1 votes

how about the mirage blade from the bilgewater event.

Astôlfo1 votes

Your support was Janna… but you're complaining about Zed…? lawlwut

Meep Man1 votes

THERE IS A WAY! When he uses his R on you, he will always appear behind you, so just place powerful delayed spells behind you during the delay of his R (especially with attached hard CC) and then punish him. If you don't, you need to really rush that hourglass.

Also, Zed can't 100-0 with RE. You would have to be a Mini-Gnar with 0 defensive items or an underfed Heim for that to happen.

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

Zed is trash in team fights IMO. He gets CC'd and destroyed and is 100% countered by BT, GA, and Hourglass.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

maybe zed was feeling strong because you kept building hourglass to counter him lol.

at least in lower elo its probably not best to go hourglass against him, sure you'll stop his ult but you wont contribute enough in many cases. You'd probably be better off with an hp item on a lot of ap champs.

zhonyas is a lot stronger when pro players use it of course but they are doing a lot more right than pressing the active button when his ult is about to pop.

Hi lm Negan1 votes

Janna could have ulted you, you could have healed, bought a ga (zeds ult is never on a 30 second cd just to mention) and its also his job to take you down. If you don't want him to kill you super quick don't feed him. Easy as that. If Zed is so super good at killing ad carries, why didn't anybody pick him at worlds? Or yasuo? In Gold you wont face a good zed anyway.

SpookyNeedle1 votes

If you're playing Fiora and parry right as the shadows converge on Zed's ult, it's not even applied, better than item 3157

Papa Slothy1 votes

Zed is already fairly weak as it is, and his change is actually a nerf

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