He is so stupid OP in the supp position. If he gets you with one hook you are dead. Once he hits level 6, he can get an easy kill on you with his ult and there is nothing you can do about it.
On top of all that he is super hard to kill, has insane armor and regen and can go invis. His kit is over bloated and he needs to be toned down.
Death by Glamour6 votesneeds a lot more than that
enchanters and taric were gutted for going into solo lanes pyke should be no different
ChaddyFantome5 votesRiot: Lethality scaling for assassins would be bad because it scales into itself too hard. -> Gives Pyke Lethality scalings.
iiGazeii3 votesTwo words: Telegraphed Skillshots
Everything Pyke does gives you a warning before he does it. His skillshots are thin and give you more than enough time to dodge them. If he lands his abilities after telling you he's going to throw them out, he outplayed you, plain and simple.
You shouldn't be trying to kill Pyke in the laning phase. Go after his carry. Until he gets items and levels on you, Pyke has hella-long cooldowns and doesn't have the damage to get kills on his own. He can set up the kill and finish it, but he has a lot of trouble with the bit in the middle. He depends on his carry to do that. He has no heals, shields, or utility for his carry, so you have an easy time poking them out and making it unsafe for them to take trades. If you force their carry to be on the back foot, Pyke gets no value because there's no one there to follow up on his CC.
Pyke also has terrible waveclear, and his hook is blocked by minions. Push the wave into the tower, and you get a wall of minions to protect you from Pyke, and he can't help the carry shove the wave back out or keep it from crashing.
Through the mid and late game, Pyke quickly becomes one of the squishiest things on the planet. He can't build health, his armor/MR scaling is pretty crappy, and he needs to build Lethality items to scale. Once you start teamfighting, NOW it's time to start focusing down Pyke. If you can CC him, he's dead in the water. He'll need to start saving his E to get OUT of fights, since his W doesn't make him totally invisible until he gets far enough away. Focus on killing Pyke first in teamfights so he can't clean up the fight with his ult. Past the laning phase, Pyke is made of paper. He can regen if you let him get away, but if you catch him out, he evaporates.
If you're going against Pyke, consider buying Boots of Swiftness to make his hook less punishing. He's going to buy a ton of lethality in 90% of games, so buy health items instead. His execute is a flat value, so the more health you buy, the harder it is for him to kill you. Taking Heal is a great way to counter his ult, since the burst of healing can take you above the threshold, forcing him to commit his own summoner or another cooldown to continue chasing. An enchanter that does a lot of healing or a tank that does a lot of CC will be Pyke's worst nightmare.
EltonpHb1 votesExact, Pyke isn't OP and is easy to counter, but they don't know how to play.
Hotarµ1 votesOnce he hits level 6, he can get an easy kill on you with his ult and there is nothing you can do about it.
You can save heal for his ultimate, CC him, or dodge it as it's got a small delay. Supports like Zilean, Sona, and Lulu all work really well against him if you play it correctly. I'm noticing that you play a lot of Zyra which is an easy matchup for Pyke. She's immobile, her abilities have a small delay and he can outlast the poke with his passive. If you swap to (/continue playing) Sona you should have a much easier time dealing with Pyke.
On top of all that he is super hard to kill, has insane armor and regen and can go invis. His kit is over bloated and he needs to be toned down.
The one thing I think really needs to be hit is his in-lane sustain. He gains too much survivability from it and while you can still die quickly, he's able to make plays without any real risks. Toning his gray health back or making it decay if not used immediately would be the best course of action.
His kit isn't overloaded, though. He has no shields, no heals, his abilities are telegraphed, and he can't build tank anymore. His sole purpose is to deal damage and that can be a double-edged sword when playing support. That's also why Alistar and Thresh are still commonly picked (and in Thresh's case he's actually more popular than Pyke) since they can bring more to the table.
EltonpHb1 votesJust 3 words. Learn To Play.
Pyke: Low AD scale. Smoke Paper (To squishy, incluide with full tank items) He got great mobility with E and invisible in range with his W yeah but he need something no? out of curiosoty all people who say "pyke is op" mimimimimimimi @cry is max silver... Pick you Pyke and I pick another champ for top and we play 1vs1. If you win me I let you 50€
