So... I'm having a hard time playing fiora. Full damage is a defnitly no on her, shes too paper and dies in one second, giving the fact fiora needs to hit atleast once the person who she ultimated for the heal to proc.
I was thinking if Fiora could be built as a tank, after all, she does true damage, and heals in the end the entire team inside the circle...
Wouldnt that be good? OPinions please
Hasztalan21 votes
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SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes
Think I'd rather have Hydra over Ghostblade. Waveclear seems more valuable than crit on her, plus it's a bigger chunk of AD and has lifesteal. Otherwise, I agree with this.
EDIT: On second thought, maybe I'd go Frozen Mallet over IBG as well.
Hasztalan21 votesThink I'd rather have Hydra over Ghostblade. Waveclear seems more valuable than crit on her, plus it's a bigger chunk of AD and has lifesteal. Otherwise, I agree with this.
EDIT: On second thought, maybe I'd go Frozen Mallet over IBG as well.
Mallet is useless on her same with lifesteal. She doesnt really need waveclear what she needs teh MOST is CDR and thats what this build is focused on.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesShe needs as for her autos + raw ad for her scaling, there is not such item in league yet... also what kind of team comps needs fiora? there are better assasin- fighters out there
67chrome1 votes
Fiora is 
2.0
Also - the only build solutions aren't full tank or glass cannon, there is bruiser build as an option.
Anyways, Sheen is great for Fiora's 2-hit never/always crit deal, because it makes it always crit, always crit. Sheen is also solid on her dash, seeing as it applies on-hit effects now. Same basic deal as Irelia's dash. And Tri-Force's 250% base AD hit is a pretty solid chunk of damage that essentially scales with your level, and it's damage that isn't reliant on other items to hit hard as the game goes on.
Kindblade is nice for the sustain and the %HP damage scaling automatically as the game goes on as well, keeping your damage relevant with bruiser builds.
Even with Riposte offering some AOE and decent wave-clear, Fiora still has wave-clear issues. Without the amazing burst rotation, AA steroids, untargetability, or potential penta-kill ultimate - I wouldn't get Tiamat/Hydra on her anymore though.
is probably her best wave-clear item now. She is a tanky DPS champion like now, and in some matchups rushing can be extreemly powerful. The AoE damage applying every second without stopping your movement actually adds up to be pretty substantial pretty fast as well, it's a solid mix of offense and defense with a surprising amount of both.
Critmaster Garen1 votes
Fiora is
Also - the only build solutions aren't full tank or glass cannon, there is bruiser build as an option.
Anyways, Sheen is great for Fiora's 2-hit never/always crit deal, because it makes it always crit, always crit. Sheen is also solid on her dash, seeing as it applies on-hit effects now. Same basic deal as Irelia's dash. And Tri-Force's 250% base AD hit is a pretty solid chunk of damage that essentially scales with your level, and it's damage that isn't reliant on other items to hit hard as the game goes on.
Kindblade is nice for the sustain and the %HP damage scaling automatically as the game goes on as well, keeping your damage relevant with bruiser builds.
Even with Riposte offering some AOE and decent wave-clear, Fiora still has wave-clear issues. Without the amazing burst rotation, AA steroids, untargetability, or potential penta-kill ultimate - I wouldn't get Tiamat/Hydra on her anymore though.
your passive scales with ad. it will deal like 4% damge with that build.
also, attack speed wont make you deal more true damage like irelia. also, her heal scales with ad.
no wonder why people think she sucks, if theyre building her like this.
67chrome1 votesAS will make Fiora's autos take less time, and allowing her more time to move around her target and better QoL in activating the passive damage points. Tri and Kingblade both enhance mobility towards this end as well. If you attack hard and slow, you're not going to make much use of her passive or ultimate.
Also - having AD or AP scaling doesn't mean you should heavily persue them. You don't go ham on AP with Kog'Maw or MF just because they have decent ratios, you don't go ham on AD with Nasus because potential 300 AD steroid and 40 armor pen could lead to some monster crits.
.On an unrelated note - why would you quote the entire monster-post when you can just hit reply :?
Critmaster Garen1 votesAS will make Fiora's autos take less time, and allowing her more time to move around her target and better QoL in activating the passive damage points. Tri and Kingblade both enhance mobility towards this end as well. If you attack hard and slow, you're not going to make much use of her passive or ultimate.
Also - having AD or AP scaling doesn't mean you should heavily persue them. You don't go ham on AP with Kog'Maw or MF just because they have decent ratios, you don't go ham on AD with Nasus because potential 300 AD steroid and 40 armor pen could lead to some monster crits.
Same deal with Fiora - she has AD scalings but her kit dynamics make them unfeasible to use in an AD heavy build. Very similar to
On an unrelated note - why would you quote the entire monster-post when you can just hit reply :?
darius deals consistent damage with his bleed, and gets free armor penetration on his e. he also has higher base damage on his abilities. thats why he can allow himself to build more tanky instead of stacking massive ad to be effective.
fioras main source of damage is her passive and single hard hitting auto attacks on bladework.
riot geared her towards high bonus ad scalings and bad base values. a tank or bruiser build sucks on her, and bork is a terrible choice. ive only seen people fail with that build.
as far as attack speed goes, she gains extra as and has an auto attack reset on her e.
its like building yasuo tank.
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darius deals consistent damage with his bleed, and gets free armor penetration on his e. he also has higher base damage on his abilities. thats why he can allow himself to build more tanky instead of stacking massive ad to be effective.
fioras main source of damage is her passive and single hard hitting auto attacks on bladework.
riot geared her towards high bonus ad scalings and bad base values. a tank or bruiser build sucks on her, and bork is a terrible choice. ive only seen people fail with that build.
as far as attack speed goes, she gains extra as and has an auto attack reset on her e.
its like building yasuo tank.
If this is true, then what is the point of playing Fiora over Tryndamere?
Tryndamere has a better gap closer/escape, higher base stats, and most importantly, can afford to built pure offense due to the survivability built into his kit. I'm really having trouble figuring out how to build Fiora myself, because if you build her bruiser her damage is fairly lackluster, but if you go glass cannon you get blown up.
Critmaster Garen1 votesIf this is true, then what is the point of playing Fiora over Tryndamere?
Tryndamere has a better gap closer/escape, higher base stats, and most importantly, can afford to built pure offense due to the survivability built into his kit. I'm really having trouble figuring out how to build Fiora myself, because if you build her bruiser her damage is fairly lackluster, but if you go glass cannon you get blown up.
tryndamere doesnt blow up 500 armor rammus with a thornmail or a 5k health chogath.
with a melee adc build, fiora deals a good 80% of her targets max health in true damage if she pops all 4 marks on her ult. even more, if she pops a mark right before activating the ult.
tryndamere also doesnt get a 2k aoe heal for his team.
basically it doesnt matter for fiora who shes fighting. as long as she doesnt make too many mistakes, she can 1v1 anyone. not blowing up is the tricky part. shes a melee adc who takes quite some timing and skill now. shes gonna take a ton of practise to play as a glass cannon. but she has the tools to do so. and if you dont make mistakes, the payoff is enormous.
thats the philosophy behind the newer melee adc like yasuo and fiora. theyre mechanically difficult to play and require a lot of micromanagement. in return they can carry their team almost on their own.
Valkreon1 votesShes definitly not Irelia 2.0, Irelia can get on a carry and stick on them with Reliable CC and a Decent gap closer on a moderate cooldown that resets on kill. Fiora has a Dash on the same cooldown that dashes less than half the distance an unreliable CC that even if you pull off doenst allow you to stick on a carry and an ult that is useless if the opponet is running away. While Irelias job in a team fight is to dive the carry, fiora's kit definitly does not allow her to dive carries. Even if you Succeed in diving a carry, which with this kit is almost impossible, the second part of your ULt is useless as you will be away from your team. The unreliable CC and the Low Base damages and fact that her ablitlies all scale off of BONUS AD means you have to build pure AD on her but this makes her the squishiest champ in the game with no defensive abilities besides a .75 invluerabiltiy that roots you in place so you dont gain any momentom by using it. So i guess you are supposed to build her full damage but try and survive in front line i dont even know, but we have to figure out what your job in a team fight is with her before you try and build her. Maybe just a split push top? Use the ult to win fight and heal so you can keep pushing? idk even her 1 v 1 potential is iffy4
GummyBearWookiee1 votesShe seems to do well IMO with a 
...honestly those two items are great on her...after that you can mix it up with good tank items or throw in a to make sure that they'll never get away.
lightdragoon881 votesShe needs AD. Her true damage does nothing unless she has some AD.
Yes get a tank item or 2, but not full tank as you would do better with
A Miss Fortune1 votesMy best build for her is 
and 2 - 3 tank items
are good for Magic Resist
are good for Armor
all work well with Fiora too
Try to build mostly damage, but don't build like a glass cannon. Fiora isn't that squishy now and her Parry provides her a lot of self protection and is probably one of the best abilities in the game if used right (I've parried Ekko shield, Karthus ult, Sion ult, Thresh hook etc) but she needs at least two tank items preferably.
Try getting 40% CDR, it helps a lot since Fiora can abuse her Lunge for repositioning or getting vitals down, and her Ultimate will have REALLY low cooldown.
gives Fiora an insane amount of damage and lets her blow up squishy targets, tanks, and clear waves really fast, but I'd probably say finish the build with against Armor to get that Cooldown Reduction which works crazy well with Fiora.
