Stacking Champions are Broken

Backseat Flip··8 votes·2,154 views

Nasus and Veigar for example, are one of the reasons this game is slowly dying. Nasus especially(tank meta) wins the game on their own regardless of their own teams performance. Whats ridiculous is the inevitable win that will come if the game passes 30 minutes which is disgusting as a champion idea. For these champions they don't even need to build AD/AP because their passive does it for them meaning they can go full tank and proceed to do equivalent to the jungle or adc. The ability to stack just shouldn't be in the game or if they must keep it(cause its riot) they should at least make it harder to stack after awhile instead of making it EASIER. Its mind blowing to me that barely anyone talks about this when one ability can do 1400 in a point and click, or a 500 aa that is available every couple of seconds. I just think they could improve this if they made stacking MUCH harder rather than making it a broken mechanic that isn't nerfed because it isn't popular in LCS.

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CancerBasedGod2 votes

Just not true.

Backseat Flip6 votes

It is very much true, have you never played against a nasus that was unkillable with damage(but no AD items) or a veigar that one shot the adc by pressing r?

CancerBasedGod1 votes

No because those things don't happen. Especially Veigar R, it's an execute, it doesn't ever one shot anyone, it does shit damage if you are high HP.

Backseat Flip4 votes

1400 dmg isnt shit dmg...

CancerBasedGod1 votes

It doesn't do 1400 damage to opponents unless they have significant missing hp! Do you not understand what an execute mechanic is?

LordGeovanni2 votes

i wouldnt call 20% missing hp significant especially when so many champions are being balanced around getting extra stuff when below 50% hp

CancerBasedGod2 votes

It requires 1,000 AP to deal that much pre-mitigation at 20% health missing. Now that's not remotely the same as chunking 1,400 AP, and is not what the OP was talking about in his original post. He claims Veigar can go full tank and get that damage, and he can't realistically. You'd have to give him a full hour to build that much passive. Veigar needs, minimum item 3089 to hit that much pre-mitigation, and item 3135 to do anything to anyone with MR.

LordGeovanni1 votes

Veigar gets 1000 ap naturally just playing by 30 mins in the game because he kills things so easily farms q and gets free ap if anyone touches his spells while he builds his items. the fact is that veigar is at least 4 times as hard to counter as he is to play.

Glîtchy1 votes

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It is very much true, have you never played against a nasus that was unkillable with damage(but no AD items) or a veigar that one shot the adc by pressing r?

For his ult to 1-shot a full HP Twitch Ashe Jinx or whatever is played, he'd have to have 1.2K AP, which takes awhile.

Slythion2 votes

Nasus is broken

46.47% win rate...lol

Backseat Flip3 votes

Low elo, ya know 52%

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

Low elo winrate is irrelevant. Nasus and Veigar both sit well below 50% in Diamond.

Glîtchy2 votes

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Low elo winrate is irrelevant. Nasus and Veigar both sit well below 50% in Diamond.

Exactly, because low elo doesn't know how to win against them.

Slythion1 votes

"These guys are strong because they win against bad players who don't know how to play at an effective level"

yep, good argument...

Remember the good ol' days when a champion was considered strong based on their competence, not a player's incompetence? Whoever thought that was a good idea lolll

Glîtchy2 votes

How to beat these guys you mentioned.

Veigar is countered by: Syndra Zed Fizz Talon

Nasus is countered by: Darius Teemo Renekton Vayne Trundle

A FLUFFY BUNNY 11 votes

Morgana is also one of veigars biggest counters r. Her spell shield makes his stun useless.

Takazaki2 votes

how to kill nasus Darius lane bully do now allow him to farm plus free armor pen so he cannot be allowed to build damage at all. no farm no damage just a shitty meat shield.

Illaoi personal one for me, strong zoning punishes him for farming, a jungler gank only increases your DPS late game he still should kill you unless he has help doing so.

Teemo Q

Renekton lane bully nuff said

Pantheon well look at that another lane bully

Nasus its almost LIKE IF YOU DONT ALLOW HIM TO FARM HE IS EVEN MORE USELESS THEN ANYONE ELSE

Glîtchy1 votes

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how to kill nasus Darius lane bully do now allow him to farm plus free armor pen so he cannot be allowed to build damage at all. no farm no damage just a shitty meat shield.

Illaoi personal one for me, strong zoning punishes him for farming, a jungler gank only increases your DPS late game he still should kill you unless he has help doing so.

Teemo Q

Renekton lane bully nuff said

Pantheon well look at that another lane bully

Nasus its almost LIKE IF YOU DONT ALLOW HIM TO FARM HE IS EVEN MORE USELESS THEN ANYONE ELSE

Personally I find Nasus vs. Illaoi as Nasus having an edge, because idle tentacles can be stacked off of.

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

Nasus and Veigar- slowly killing the game since 2009. Haha.

MaeDoSan1 votes

Ppl just need to use cdr runes with nasus

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

Nasus's winrate plateaus after around 30-35 minutes. He can't keep stacking after that or he'll leave his team to 4v5 and lose. He isn't the best in teamfights because the 200+ armor frontline can just soak his Q damage, and the squishies just melt him down.

A FLUFFY BUNNY 11 votes

Bottles champs are easy to beat. Veigar is useless once his stun is used and Nasus is a sitting duck once his ult wares off.

LordGeovanni1 votes

They are just because of the very fact that riot tries to make their non stacking abilites and their stacking abilites damage make up for if they fall behind so when they dont fall behind they shit stomp

CuteKoreanGirl1 votes

I left lol becasue of that champs! Thx riot for eding this ...........

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