Yasuo nerfs on the PBE

Eternya·Aug 29, 2016·25 votes·4,217 views

Attack speed per level lowered to 2.5 from 3.2 Base attack speed also increased to [0.67] from [0.658]. Attack delay to -0.067 from -0.05´ Steel Tempest (Q) - [tooltip clarification only] added to tooltip "is interruptible by crowd control " Last Breath (R) - secondary effect of increased bonus armor pen now only applies to Yasuo's critical strikes rather than all attacks. "For 15 seconds, Yasuo's critical strikes gain 50% Bonus Armor Penetration - this affects Armor from items, buffs, runes and masteries"

72 Comments

Mask Top JhinAug 29, 201632 votes

Thank god. Well, at least we can get back to complaining about normal Yasuo and not the tank one...

GULAG 4 UAug 29, 20165 votes

Normal yasuo doesn't need nerfs.

CrazedPorcupineAug 29, 201625 votes

no, he doesn't, but that doesn't change the fact that facing a good yasuo is frustrating as hell and is impossible to effectively play against Because of how hard he snowballs.

GULAG 4 UAug 29, 20162 votes

It's the same for about every other champion when played well so I don't understand why are you ranting over it, a good azir or Yi is also very annoying to play against.

CrazedPorcupineAug 29, 201611 votes

And look at's what happened to both of them. Nerfed into essential oblivion. Azir is hardly plyed in the pro scene since his last nerf

ZT XperimentorAug 30, 20163 votes

Have you seen a nautilus carry a game like an assassin or marksman? I didn't think so, tanks & supports have the worst snowballing potential.

YasûoAug 30, 20162 votes

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Have you seen a nautilus carry a game like an assassin or marksman? I didn't think so, tanks & supports have the worst snowballing potential.

Nautilus tbf if played well can carry quite hard, not as much as a dmg carry but he can be pretty unstopable if he gets fed

ZT XperimentorAug 30, 20162 votes

But does a fed nautilus 2-shot squishy enemies? No, nor does he outright deny them from damaging him or his team. And he runs on mana, like 4/5 of the list. However if a yasou is behind, he won't be for long thanks to his free double critical steroid; a nautilus that's behind is more frail than the marksman, and isn't going to catch up until everyone else is full build.

GULAG 4 UAug 31, 20161 votes

They nerfed the tankbuild jesus christ, why are you still crying over it?

GaleWinUnleashedSep 1, 20161 votes

Nah, this is just gripe about Yasuo in general. We're fairly satisfied that these changes will make Tank Yasuo fall out of style, so we can go back to being frustrated with normal Yasuo. It's not even a question of balance, really, just that he's annoying (some would say unfun) to play against when he's played well.

GULAG 4 USep 5, 20161 votes

Because you know, every other champion when played well is also fustrating?

ÜbërmenschAug 30, 20166 votes

best explanation i have ever seen in a while, logged in just to upvote :D

WolfChasesAug 30, 20161 votes

KETSU0Aug 30, 20161 votes

So you're mad cuz a player is reapiing the reward for getting good at a hard to play champ, smh typical boards.

FragglerocAug 30, 20161 votes

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So you're mad cuz a player is reapiing the reward for getting good at a hard to play champ, smh typical boards.

"hard to play" in quotes u mean?

GULAG 4 UAug 31, 20161 votes

Yasuo is harder to play than master yi or aatrox.

FragglerocSep 1, 20161 votes

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Yasuo is harder to play than master yi or aatrox.

No.

GULAG 4 USep 1, 20161 votes

So you're tellling me yasuo is easy? Lmfao

FragglerocSep 3, 20162 votes

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So you're tellling me yasuo is easy? Lmfao

Yep

GULAG 4 USep 3, 20161 votes

It's not, did you ever play yasuo?

FragglerocSep 4, 20161 votes

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It's not, did you ever play yasuo?

lol u kid yourself. try play any mages against him. Only a handful of top laners can handle him in laning phase and he's not even a top-laner. Like Zed, he's a cancer assassin, which should not excel at lane-bullying.

http://www.matchup.gg/champion/Yasuo/ (these lane-win-rates are stupid, to say the least)

he's easy as hell to play.

GULAG 4 USep 4, 20161 votes

It's because of a bug. And because tanksuo is freelo. Play yasuo yourself before you say shit.

FragglerocSep 5, 20161 votes

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It's because of a bug. And because tanksuo is freelo. Play yasuo yourself before you say shit.

u're bad if u're not capitalizing on his lane-bullying... yawn. speak no more.

GULAG 4 USep 5, 20161 votes

Lane bullying? A lot of top laners bully him and it's already known that he's bugged. I didn't check your opgg but it's clear you have no idea of what you're talking about and prolly never played yasuo. Peace

NightmareAmazoXAug 30, 20163 votes

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Normal yasuo doesn't need nerfs.

Why in the world did this comment get down voted? He speaks the truth. Only Bruiser was busted and made yasuo be played not the way Riot intended. Lol Hello? Boards? Guys? Is this a joke?

GULAG 4 UAug 31, 20162 votes

Because the boards are never fucking satisfied with yasuo nerfs until he gets back to the 43% winrate.

CrazedPorcupineAug 31, 20161 votes

because if he's even remotely stronger than that, Pro's and people with any remote amount of experience with him change that winrate from 43% up to 70%.

GULAG 4 UAug 31, 20161 votes

Same shit happened with riven and she gets buffed.

You don't nerf a champion over a couple of crying silvers.

And since when was yasuo abused by the pros so hard? He's never picked in lcs, and his winrate was never near 70%.

Only the top champion players hit 70%.

CrazedPorcupineSep 1, 20161 votes

Riot has changed champions simply because they're too good at low elos (YI) and not good at pro levels.

GULAG 4 USep 1, 20161 votes

what does this have a thing with my previous point?

Yasuo isn't really "bad" at high elo. it's just that they see he actually has counterplay.

WolfChasesAug 30, 20161 votes

Hahahahaha you sir made my day xD

LegacyDAPAug 29, 201610 votes

Thanks god finally some nerfs that were well deserved.

SalronAug 29, 20167 votes

No indication of the bug being fixed yet though

Solari FortuneAug 29, 20161 votes

Bug Fixes don't usually end up in the PBE notes it will prob be fixed though either soon or when the patch goes live

asamuAug 29, 20161 votes

What is the bug?

NineTailedMysticAug 30, 20161 votes

Instead of being unable to attack after his ult which is a recent bug fix, its bugged so he gets an extra auto attack during the ult.

YJRBqwXJcSAug 29, 20163 votes

ok guys lets be real

people were spamming yasuo when he was trash do you honestly think nerfs are gonna stop him?

DunkinNoobsAug 29, 20163 votes

The ult nerf seems fine; should severely weaken the tank builds effectiveness against tanks which was likely the goal. The AS changes? Not sure what the point of those are. Not sure how it works out in the end either. Higher base but lower per level growth: what's the difference at lvl 18, for example?

MorcleonAug 30, 20165 votes

Pre-nerf had 1.0160 AS at 18, post-nerf has 0.9548 AS at 18. It also means that he scales better with AS, since the base is higher.

MysteriousBootieAug 30, 20163 votes

DELICIOUSSSSSSSSSS

http://i.imgur.com/fE39OC0.gif

GetcuxcdAug 30, 20162 votes

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DELICIOUSSSSSSSSSS

http://i.imgur.com/fE39OC0.gif

oh sweet justice yas mains were using that when we cried for nerfs now we can use that :v [slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

Only Play DariusAug 29, 20161 votes

The nerfs are overkill honestly. All he needed was the bug fix and crit change on his armor penetration, the rest is going to gut him.

Masala ChaiAug 29, 20167 votes

The only thing that they are nerfing is the crit bonus armor pen and attack speed per level. He scales much better off of Attack Speed Items; and this could situationally be seen as a buff to Crit Yasuo's Mid Game.

Yasuo is also statistically the best top laner in the game atm; so there's that too.

Only Play DariusAug 29, 20161 votes

I don't like them reducing his attack speed growth as I often build item 3111 on him and rarely build Triforce, so my only attack speed item is really Shiv. But what I dislike the most is the delay on his autoattack, it's going to make him feel clunky whereas his gameplay is supposed to be fluid. I can understand doing it for Kalista as she gets a Vayne tumble on every attack but Yasuo gets no special benefits from regular autoattacks.

Masala ChaiAug 30, 20166 votes

Delay on auto attacks?! Midear, you have not played Anivia or Annie or Karthus with no mana! And Kalista pays for her passive; If 1.8 AS Kalista is hit by Gragas barrel, she attacks slower than Gragas base attack speed at level 1. We all know how much you hate Kalista; in fact one of your comments was brought up on Reddit on a marksman balancing discussion as to why Riot should NEVER listen to the Boards. At this point the only part Reddit find enjoyable about the boards is Memes and Games.

SnugglePuggle94Aug 30, 20163 votes

He's a major Zed/Yasuo main, bud. He always is on every thread about them complaining about nerfs or QQing comments.

Valor BotAug 29, 20161 votes

Wasn't this nerf suggested by a player here on the forums? Trying to find the specific thread but coming up short

EternyaAug 29, 20165 votes

Yes by Arkadata, OTP challenger yasuo main.

ToastersaotAug 30, 20161 votes

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Wasn't this nerf suggested by a player here on the forums? Trying to find the specific thread but coming up short

It's me, and here's the thread.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/H3dUlFEl-make-yasuos-ult-armor-pen-apply-only-to-critical-strikes?show=flat&page=4