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Petition to revert Phase Rush to Stormraiders

SynthicDev··18 votes·5,304 views

At the end of Season 7 Riot revealed some details about Runes Reforged. One of this details was the Decision to keep some Keystones (Thunderlords, Stormraiders) When I heard that Riot wanted to keep Stormraiders I was super hyped because it was simply my favourite rune overall. But now months later even after a ton of buffs. Its just not the same.

Lets be real here: Stormraiders was always designed to be an assasin rune to make up for the lack of escape on some champs like Vlad and Talon. Phase Rush is the except opposite. It just makes champs that are supposed to be kiteable extremely sticky (Nasus, Darius, Garen, Xin) and is completely useless on others. Have you seen any assasin pick it ever since it was reworked? No? Me neither. Would it be great to have a rune for assasins that does just that? Probably.

So I beg you: Please make some changes or even a new rune if thats possible to fill that hole.

Upvote if you want Stormraiders back, Downvote if not.

Thank you for your Attention.

19 Comments

Tahminatrix 11 votes

Assassins don't pick it because they don't need it, damage done is all that matters atm and its much easier to kill your target and get out with the lack of dedicated supports and tanks.

And you don't downvote a thread because you disagree with it due to your opinion, you downvote it if it lacks any content or has a straight forward enough answer to it so that it cannot spark conversation and debate. (Unless you are in the memes and games or bugs section or the question is important enough and can help many people.)

Just add a poll to your thread.

SynthicDev1 votes

First of all yeah at the moment damage is what matters. But even before the current meta no assasin took it for a reason. Its way to hard to proc cause you always have to use your whole combo to proc it.

And because of the thing with the upvote / downvote thing I just wanted a general overview if I am the only one who would want it back or if a lot of players also have the same thought about it and I dont really care if the thread ends up -104 as long as I get results

Sire Hippington1 votes

the issue with doing that is that you're threat drops from the fornt pagers if it gets alot downvotes so noone sees it. i still think we should have seperate up/down votes for the entiere threat(aka the discussion) and the Original Post(aka the creators opinion) to prevent that issue.

But even before the current meta no assasin took it for a reason

And that reason was exactly the same: they gave up to much by picking it. And know what? Hardly any assasin ever used Storraiders aswell, becuase the damage from Thunderlords was more benefical by comparision.

Devinatiol3 votes

I hate phase rush on cruisers and juggernauts but love it on dps mages who don't typically have enough mobility to keep up with things like phantom dancers, phages, and other me items alone the steady mobility creep... I don't think we need stormraiders back, especially with items like stormrazor giving ms but phase rush does feel like it's being abused by certain champions to negate their weaknesses/counterplay

SynthicDev2 votes

Thats exactly why I think Stormraiders could be nice. Juggernauts and Bruisers would have struggles to do enough damage to proc it (unless they are fed / playing vs a squishy target) and all the mages / assasins would have a rune to give them a little bit of mobility

Devinatiol1 votes

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Thats exactly why I think Stormraiders could be nice. Juggernauts and Bruisers would have struggles to do enough damage to proc it (unless they are fed / playing vs a squishy target) and all the mages / assasins would have a rune to give them a little bit of mobility

I mean lots of mages don't have the damage to actually proc it till way later in the game and not being AD means throwing in AAs won't help get the proc. I'm think particularly champions like Arhi (who doesn't need it but still) Cassi, Ryze, Karthus, Kennen, and Vlad. And I mean I feel like the problematic champions who abuse phase rush end up doing way more burst damage than these mages anyways, 1 Darius combo, 1 Nasus Q

DarukongSr1 votes

Lol assassin's don't need more mobility dude. They're so strong and mobile as is. Juggers actually tend to struggle and really need some movement speed if they want to be relevant

Netorare3 votes

Playing assassin -picking stormraiders instead of thunderlords -wondering why he doesn't do dmg -??????

ßøss2 votes

Say no more have this upvote fam

Hokage Vladimir2 votes

u got my upvote

Kelg2 votes

I actually prefer phase over SRS after using it for a bit. It could maybe use some buffs early, but its still okay. It's nice to be able to proc it against tanky champs to use as an escape.

IdveYsUfSK2 votes

rofl stormraiders is not a assassin rune, its for immobile champs and mainly for juggernauts. mages and assassins were abusing it to remove their counterplay which is why its nerfed and replaced by phase rush.

Sire Hippington1 votes

Assasins never picked stromraiders either, for the exact same reason they don't pick phaserush: THEY GIVE UP TO MUCH RAW DAMAGE BY DOING SO!!!!!!

Phase rush's mechanic is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than stormraiders simply because it's RELIABLE and doesn't deoend on how tanky youÄre target is or how much damage you got. Stormraiders was like: Need an esacpae but are 1% short of the treshhold damage? Thoguh luck, you die....Fed enough to get the threshhold on the back of a single abillity? Have an easy time to chase down that kill.

The Phase rush procs allow you to 100% plan you're combat patterns around them. The main issue is that the tuneing for most melees is a bit to low especially in the early(it's certainly high enough for battle mages) and because the opportunity cost is to high, aka other runes offer to much by comparision If other runes get tuned down, especially in their raw combat power, utillity runes like phaserush and glacial augment actually become good options. But right now, what good does it to stick in a fight that you can't win becuase you give up to much combat power by going for the utillity?

AirKingNeo1 votes

except Stormraiders did exactly what you're saying Phase Rush does, making people extra stupidly sticky like Cassiopeia.

DarukongSr1 votes

Talon is plenty strong as is lol

Nyarlathοtep

Stormraiders was always designed to be an assasin rune to make up for the lack of escape on some champs like Vlad and Talon.

But vlad isnt an assassin :/

SynthicDev2 votes

Well yeah he isnt an assasin but a burst mage and those 2 classes are somewhat similar. Only difference is that burst mages have less mobility than assasins but more range most of the time

Nyarlathοtep1 votes

No he isnt an burst mage. He is a battle mage. He has burst when he is ahead, while the enemy is behind.

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