Can Anivia get a nerf?

Kavren2055·Mar 25, 2018·30 votes·4,141 views

I ain't bitching hard just suggesting. I just find that she needs a nerf. Her ice spike is a little too strong early. Maybe raise ult CD.

That's what I think I could help her. (One of those)

67 Comments

koshkyraMar 25, 20187 votes

Needs reliability nerfs

Even if she gets behind shes just gonna spam R on the minion wave everytime it comes without interacting with you, until she outscales you and then starts oneshotting everyone in sight with RWE (who needs skillshots right?)

Its All SkillzzMar 25, 20183 votes

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Needs reliability nerfs

Even if she gets behind shes just gonna spam R on the minion wave everytime it comes without interacting with you, until she outscales you and then starts oneshotting everyone in sight with RWE (who needs skillshots right?)

yep this is the problem, i think her ult should do reduced damage to minions or something. with 0 ap and a tear she can instant clear a wave at lvl 6.

Master Van TachiMar 26, 20184 votes

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yep this is the problem, i think her ult should do reduced damage to minions or something. with 0 ap and a tear she can instant clear a wave at lvl 6.

She can instant clear a wave at lvl 6.... for the low, low price of two-thirds of her mana bar.

XxDRAGONsAK47xXMar 26, 20183 votes

With a tear you can clear 3-4 minion waves before running out of mana... Oh no...

Master Van TachiMar 26, 20182 votes

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With a tear you can clear 3-4 minion waves before running out of mana... Oh no...

with a tear, you can clear 2 minion waves instead of 1. wow. she's so strong.

ShiznyteMar 26, 20182 votes

you act like she isn't rushing item 3070 into item 3010 ... she has plenty of mana from the items she builds now haha

xJLx MCHammerMar 25, 20186 votes

No she has clear weakness

I prefer if they just increase her cost on E and give her refund if she uses it on stunned target.

DauntMar 25, 20182 votes

Hmm, yeah. Weaknesses that are covered up with an incredibly OP passive that completely doesn't fit the champion gameplay wise.

xJLx MCHammerMar 25, 20183 votes

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Hmm, yeah. Weaknesses that are covered up with an incredibly OP passive that completely doesn't fit the champion gameplay wise.

Her passive does not to make her laning good.

DauntMar 25, 20183 votes

Huh? It makes her safer. Knowing that she has her egg up means that you never have actual kill pressure unless the Anivia player is retarded.

XxDRAGONsAK47xXMar 26, 20182 votes

what? She's a fucking Cryophoenix. PHOENIX! ya know, the bird that REBIRTHS after DEATH????

DauntMar 26, 20181 votes

Hello? Gameplay =/= Lore

XxDRAGONsAK47xXMar 26, 20181 votes

Well let's get rid of Zac's passive then. Makes no sense he gets a revive since gameplay =/= lore. Same with Aatrox.

DauntMar 26, 20181 votes

Actually it goes well into their kits. Zac and Aatrox want to be in the middle of the fight and fight it out until they die. Their revives are both more shitty than what Anivia has btw. Why does a control mage who's only weakness is someone getting close to them covered by the best revive ability in the game? She gets her whole HP bar back so even if you kill her in lane you're most likely not gonna have enough damage to finish off the egg. It's semi balanced with how squishy and immobile she is early game but mixed with how her kit actually works, players not being dumb and her current state it makes her OP.

d9u7c1anhApr 24, 20181 votes

I think her weakness is getting CC not someone get close to her and kill her A control mage that do zoning a pathway can live longer to keep zoning that pathway...no gameplay at all. And she a good pick does not make her OP (after all playing safe should be easier but less fun).

KS King KenchMar 25, 20184 votes

personally i dont like the idea (although i may be a little biased cause I love anivia) her q is really slow moving making it hard to land a lot of the time... im M7 and i still have trouble hitting q's. (no im not just a bad player lol) so i think it should be a little rewarding if you do manage to hit one... it's very easy to move out of the way of one...

Kavren2055Mar 25, 20183 votes

I'm sorry I didn't mean Q i meant the point and click spike.

KS King KenchMar 25, 20182 votes

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I'm sorry I didn't mean Q i meant the point and click spike.

I can somewhat understand that one... the real biggie you need to know with her e is that it does double dmg if you get dmged by her q or r first... it actually is rather crap without those coming first... it is rather easy to avoid the q so if you force her to lay down her ult you might have just forced an all in from her... you also need to think about how squishy she is compared to the dmg her kit does i honestly think it is fair even tho she has her passive she has to wait 6 seconds to come back AND gets reduced armor and mr while an egg

Kavren2055Mar 25, 20181 votes

I can understand more damage after Q, but not really ult, it's up to quick and too big tbh

XxDRAGONsAK47xXMar 26, 20181 votes

Too big? It's an ultimate.

I guess we should nerf Lux's ult because its too long

Kavren2055Mar 26, 20181 votes

Yes but it's on a ten second cd or something, Lux has a normal CD unless she kills someone

XxDRAGONsAK47xXMar 26, 20182 votes

yah, but it kills mana. Anivia runs out of mana so easily, more so than any champion I've ever played.

Master Van TachiMar 26, 20183 votes

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I'm sorry I didn't mean Q i meant the point and click spike.

point and click spike that does no damage unless you are frozen, which means you are either standing in her ult like an idiot or somehow getting hit by the slowest moving skill shot in the game.

BroLaneMar 26, 20181 votes

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personally i dont like the idea (although i may be a little biased cause I love anivia) her q is really slow moving making it hard to land a lot of the time... im M7 and i still have trouble hitting q's. (no im not just a bad player lol) so i think it should be a little rewarding if you do manage to hit one... it's very easy to move out of the way of one...

Use wall and ult to make it much easier.

d9u7c1anhApr 24, 20181 votes

Still hard if you play a mobile champion or a champion that can one shot from a far(Zigg, Zerath,ADC). And that is 1 less defence she have (with is needed becquse her base stat is shit)

BroLaneApr 24, 20181 votes

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Still hard if you play a mobile champion or a champion that can one shot from a far(Zigg, Zerath,ADC). And that is 1 less defence she have (with is needed becquse her base stat is shit)

That's a necro if I've seen one.

Dani El PezgloboMar 25, 20184 votes

Nerf her base stats so she actually pay 4 her super op pasive, fml that shit is disgusting.

NyarlathοtepMar 25, 201810 votes

Nerf her base stats?! Excuse me? Have you even seen them?! She has low base hp, low AD and shitty aa animation (with albeit a good range), low armour and low movement speed. Like do you even read?

Its All SkillzzMar 25, 20184 votes

i just hate how i can poke her to 10% hp an cause of her passive she can sit in lane an clear minions with ult without fear of dying cause of i engage on her im eat a stun to the face an her ult ticks while she is in egg form so ill prob die or be about dead and ill draw minion aggro trying to kill the egg. i also dont think the moment she gets a tear an hits 6 she can clear the entire wave in an instant an roam or just sit an wait for the next wave.

Master Van TachiMar 26, 20182 votes

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i just hate how i can poke her to 10% hp an cause of her passive she can sit in lane an clear minions with ult without fear of dying cause of i engage on her im eat a stun to the face an her ult ticks while she is in egg form so ill prob die or be about dead and ill draw minion aggro trying to kill the egg. i also dont think the moment she gets a tear an hits 6 she can clear the entire wave in an instant an roam or just sit an wait for the next wave.

you're bad. she gets reduced defense in egg form. if you can't kill her egg you must be playing without a keyboard.

DauntMar 26, 20182 votes

Ah yes, cause every midlaner has enough damage to kill the full HP egg early game, even mid game depending on how much resources they had to put into killing her the first time.

Malicious MetalMar 26, 20184 votes

Give her wall some goddamn counterplay and I'll be happy, you can compensate her in other ways but it's just no fun playing against and honestly it's the sole reason I permaban her.

Z3SleeperMar 25, 20183 votes

I definitely agree that she needs a love tap. Something is off, she's performing far better than before and not just by a little.

Must've been the Archangel change, with it now giving 20% CDR and having a much smoother build path.

They're still messing with the mana AP items so they most likely won't touch her or anyone else abusing Archangel until the next pass on these items.

I don't think her Ice Spike is the problem at all though. If they nerf her at all, honestly I'd like the wall to receive something.

Anivia's Wall is by far her most impactful ability that ties her whole kit together. Her damage seems fine but the utility of the wall just massively increases her power.

Dani El PezgloboMar 25, 20184 votes

make anivia w , just like veigar e , 1.5 delay

NyarlathοtepMar 25, 20186 votes

Yeah no. Veigar's needs the delay because it can stop dashes and stun for up to 2.5 seconds. Veigar's is also a cage while anivias is a wall. So all in all her w needs no nerfs whatsoever.

Dani El PezgloboMar 25, 20181 votes

anivia w can stop dashes and force u to stay opn her r, with a delay, she would have to prepare the map to kill someone, which is what she is suppost to do, i think is a good nerf

NyarlathοtepMar 25, 20183 votes

In order for her w to stop dashes she has to aim them carefully. Hell im 100% sure that a very small handful of people know that it even knocks back. And even if they do know it they might not even think that they can use it to cancel dashes. And btw it does have a very small cast time. And ofc her w would help her r. Otherwise she would (almost) have no way for her to actually hurt enemies by herself. Just like xerath who has his w to help him land e on his own. Or vel koz.

Z3SleeperMar 26, 20181 votes

I don't know about that one. I think more like just a minor duration tap (like 0.5 seconds or something, it lasts way too long).

Master Van TachiMar 26, 20181 votes

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make anivia w , just like veigar e , 1.5 delay

try playing her first. such a stupid suggestion.

Dani El PezgloboMar 30, 20181 votes

masterie 5, how to attack someone without think, wonderfull this forums

Master Van TachiMar 26, 20182 votes

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make anivia w , just like veigar e , 1.5 delay

comparing her wall to veiger's cage is completely retarded. his cage stuns. her wall is not CC. not even apples to oranges. more like apples to rocks.

SpecterVonBarenMar 26, 20181 votes

Her main item Tear of the Goddess got buffed.

SweedishGunnerMar 25, 20182 votes

Her R clears waves in seconds with just a tear and has a tiny cooldown, it needs a change.

XxDRAGONsAK47xXMar 26, 20182 votes

Clears wave for the small cost of a quarter of your mana bar :D

bbQsauçeMar 25, 20182 votes

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XxDRAGONsAK47xXMar 26, 20181 votes

Ryze can do the same thing...?

XxDRAGONsAK47xXMar 26, 20182 votes

If you nerf her anymore you might fucking make her useless.

She can no longer R+E combo. She has no wall vision. Anivia is squishy as all hell.

If you lose it's your own damn fault. Asking for an Anivia nerf is almost as silly as asking for a Trundle Nerf.

AccountaBilabudyMar 26, 20182 votes

Anivia had needed nerfs for like 2 years but shes constantly disregarded because she has a low play rate. The Seraphs buff helped her even more. This fucking joke of a champion has been sitting above 50% win rate for the longest time.

Nerf her passive. Nerf her R.

soopcanMar 26, 20181 votes

She isn't really op but just a boring pile shit to play against, especially as a melee. Gets level 6, just hits R all game after getting blue. I hope she gets a rework soon but I don't think she's on the roadmap so rip