So, yesterday I played a game as a support and my whole team recked the other team with us ending up with a 10/3/9 Cait and a super fed Zed. The other team had a Amumu, Sejuani and a Sion (double jungle...) and in late game we lost it all to a freaking 70 vs 10 game. That is just because of the tanks. Tanks are so strong nerf their items! This isn't just this game, i've played a lot of other games that just have been lost because the other team had 2 more tanks then us...
insaiyanbacca5 votessince when is renek called sion? and when was kass's name changed to zed? didnt help that your rengo didnt build right and the fact that they had a hyper carry and to late game super tanks as well as akali.
TeemoJenkins4 votesYou had a fed ADC and a fed Zed and couldn't kill tanks? Answer: You're doing it wrong.
http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2115886433/40678404?tab=stats Umm... if this is the game you're talking about the big gator guy is called Renekton, not Sion. And Kassadin is not Zed.
Your team comp was absolutely no match for theirs, you had one chance to close this game out - you had to close it out early. Late game their team fight was way too good. Sejuani / Amumu wombo with an Akali and Renekton diving into you stunning and deleting? Forget it. You getting out played doesn't constitute a need to nerf, it constitutes you needing to learn more about team comp.
Malix Farwin1 votesYou had a fed ADC and a fed Zed and couldn't kill tanks? Answer: You're doing it wrong.
http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2115886433/40678404?tab=stats Umm... if this is the game you're talking about the big gator guy is called Renekton, not Sion. And Kassadin is not Zed.
Your team comp was absolutely no match for theirs, you had one chance to close this game out - you had to close it out early. Late game their team fight was way too good. Sejuani / Amumu wombo with an Akali and Renekton diving into you stunning and deleting? Forget it. You getting out played doesn't constitute a need to nerf, it constitutes you needing to learn more about team comp.
had a fed adc and zed and couldnt kill tanks because they are OP atm. Their comp was no match for their because they had more tanks. What exactly is your point?
TeemoJenkins2 votes[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=72EQx6lj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-05-19T20:17:49.035+0000)
had a fed adc and zed and couldnt kill tanks because they are OP atm. Their comp was no match for their because they had more tanks. What exactly is your point?
Did you bother to look at the match or just acting out of ignorance? There was no Zed in the match, at all. My point is - this game was over because they have bad team composition. Who in this comp is peeling for the fed Cait (who did less damage than Ziggs)? If you look at the actual match details it looks like they lost to a split push, not to a team fight. That has zero to do with tanks.
Malix Farwin1 votesDid you bother to look at the match or just acting out of ignorance? There was no Zed in the match, at all. My point is - this game was over because they have bad team composition. Who in this comp is peeling for the fed Cait (who did less damage than Ziggs)? If you look at the actual match details it looks like they lost to a split push, not to a team fight. That has zero to do with tanks.
Everything to do with tanks, they could of had Malph top for peels and they still would of lost that matchup because they had more tanks. To beat that matchup they would of needed, random tank top, Gragas JG or top, and tank support (leona perf). Tanks brought peels and damage and tankiness. it had everything to do with the tanks especially since there isnt a viable tank in this game without strong peels. Unless of course you could name me a single comp that could of beat theirs without at least 2-3 tanks.
TeemoJenkins2 votes[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=72EQx6lj,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2015-05-19T20:33:49.480+0000)
Everything to do with tanks, they could of had Malph top for peels and they still would of lost that matchup because they had more tanks. To beat that matchup they would of needed, random tank top, Gragas JG or top, and tank support (leona perf). Tanks brought peels and damage and tankiness. it had everything to do with the tanks especially since there isnt a viable tank in this game without strong peels.
I'm sorry, so your argument is "Tanks are good at peeling, nerf them"? So you want League of Assassins back? Or League of ADC's? Right now a GOOD BALANCED TEAM has 1.5 tanks / ADC / Support .5 Tank / AP Carry / AD Jg or AP Jg or get your other .5 of tank here. Regardless you want at least one main tank on a team (That's just basic logic that you need a good front liner / peel, League 101), 2 main damage dealers, a support, and a hybrid. Or get a tanky support and let JG / top go tanky . Whatever your formula end goal: 2 tanks / 2 Dmg Dealers / 1 Support or damn the support and get 3 Dmg Dealers...
The problem isn't the tank meta, it's people being ignorant of GOOD team composition that then cry when they fall off late when the tanks max out and their back line can delete them with impunity because the peels are strong.
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Sir Yamazuki1 votes[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=72EQx6lj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-05-19T20:17:49.035+0000)
had a fed adc and zed and couldnt kill tanks because they are OP atm. Their comp was no match for their because they had more tanks. What exactly is your point?
I've won plenty of games with 0 tanks on my team, and adcs kill tanks relatively quickly, and so can Zed since he auto attacks and builds bork.
