Iverns Ult

Thunkers·Sep 21, 2016·1 votes·1,412 views

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet so I figured I would send out my own complaint. I really like ivern so far after watching streams of him, but why is such a unique original champion being stuck out with such a generic ult? I mean he is literally called the friend of the forest. he goes around freeing jungle camps, why is his ult just rock tibbers? it even looks like the same model as tibbers with some flowers pasted on. I would love to see some sort of interaction with jungle besides his passive. Like summoning the camps to take revenge or help him out in some way. Individually his skills are neat and unique but all together it seems to lack some cohesiveness. Like he makes brush but only his autos change while in them. Just my opinions on it whats everyone else think?

12 Comments

Jurojin WujiSep 21, 20163 votes

woah, woah woah,

First.

Stop calling Daisy a pet. She has feelings too.

Second.

Daisy is Pere Vert's long time friend and protector. she arguably is the most thematic skill on his kit.

Third.

Pere Vert is likely going to be most effective with a rabadon's (and what ever that comes with). he is supposed to be supportive. a dmg ult would not represent that as much as a front line and friend that scales with ap (like Daisy).

Fourth.

Its pretty clear Pere Vert's magic is focused around plant growth. how do you explain clearing red or blue and then using summoning/reanimation/reincarnation magic? i can understand Daisy growing from the ground as another plant or something, but a plant growth ult already sounds too similar to a botanist i know of.

As it stands, having an over protective golem pop up when needed fits him fine. she even says bye after helping. how friendly of her.

ThunkersSep 21, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jurojin Wuji,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6m0EZOnW,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-21T18:16:25.967+0000)

woah, woah woah,

First.

Stop calling Daisy a pet. She has feelings too.

Second.

Daisy is Pere Vert's long time friend and protector. she arguably is the most thematic skill on his kit.

Third.

Pere Vert is likely going to be most effective with a rabadon's (and what ever that comes with). he is supposed to be supportive. a dmg ult would not represent that as much as a front line and friend that scales with ap (like Daisy).

Fourth.

Its pretty clear Pere Vert's magic is focused around plant growth. how do you explain clearing red or blue and then using summoning/reanimation/reincarnation magic? i can understand Daisy growing from the ground as another plant or something, but a plant growth ult already sounds too similar to a botanist i know of.

As it stands, having an over protective golem pop up when needed fits him fine. she even says bye after helping. how friendly of her.

fair enough :D

CIickTheLanternSep 21, 20161 votes

I had the same reaction. "some kinda cool new mechanics/playstyle...and oh, another pet. Cool."

ThunkersSep 21, 20161 votes

I would be fine with a pet if it at least matched the champ a bit more like summoned blue golem or red lizard based off what he freed last

TTK DreadnoughtSep 21, 20161 votes

like a mord ult for large monsters

ThunkersSep 21, 20161 votes

yea that would at least match the rest of the champion

reaperteaserSep 21, 20161 votes

but that would almost force him to jgl every time, kinda goes against him being able to be a support

Radnar the boldSep 21, 20161 votes

I was hoping his ult would be "Stampede" where he calls all the jungle animals to run forward, similar to nami's wave, in which is damages and knocks up anyone caught in the stampede.

Sahn UzalSep 21, 20161 votes

Iverns Q and E are great tool for buffing up a melee ally, especially the ones without a gap closer can make great use of Iverns kit. His ultimate basically gives him a melee ally to buff when Darius isn't near :P

ThunkersSep 21, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tidal Tyrant,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6m0EZOnW,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-09-21T18:02:57.773+0000)

Iverns Q and E are great tool for buffing up a melee ally, especially the ones without a gap closer can make great use of Iverns kit. His ultimate basically gives him a melee ally to buff when Darius isn't near :P

I'm pretty sure red lizard and blue golem are both melee. Its not the mechanics I have complaints about I really like those, its the design that seems a bit off

Sahn UzalSep 21, 20161 votes

Wut? Yeah Blue and Redbuff are melee, but that's not relevant here His ult is not a blue buff, daisy just looks like one.

His kit is designed to enhance melee allies. He would be kinda useless if he didn'thave any melee allies to buff nearby, so his ultimate basically gives him his own personal 'melee ally' to enhance, so he isn't useless when alone :p

It could be considered a 'generic ult' on it's own, but the thing is that it works well with his kit ^^

ThunkersSep 21, 20161 votes

I meant for the purpose of summoning red lizard or blue golem. they are melee and fufill the same role as daisy bit fit better themeaticly