What is wrong with the game in its current form?

windwhispers·Oct 26, 2016·2 votes·504 views

Is it that AD bruiser hyper carries snowball off of one kill to the point that they turret dive you at level 7 and then proceed to dive your team and kill 2 people 1v5 for the rest of the game? Yes Irelia Riven Olaf etc, looking at you...

Is it that turrets can be killed in 3 hits by ad hyper carries, so they can just suicide push for guaranteed wins?

The game hasn't felt this broken since season 1. I can understand why so many people are quitting.

18 Comments

Meep ManOct 26, 20162 votes

It's funny because what you said has been the case for many seasons. Irelia, Riven, and Olaf could always tower dive and be insane in that regard, and AD carries could always crush towers if left unattended. 3 Hits is a little extreme and I'm pretty sure only the most fed Jhin could do that, but they could always destroy structures at exponential speeds.

windwhispersOct 26, 20161 votes

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It's funny because what you said has been the case for many seasons. Irelia, Riven, and Olaf could always tower dive and be insane in that regard, and AD carries could always crush towers if left unattended. 3 Hits is a little extreme and I'm pretty sure only the most fed Jhin could do that, but they could always destroy structures at exponential speeds.

This is more how fast they can push a wave and how fast the turrets die. After basically level 5 the turrets can barely do damage to bruisers, and the turrets die so fast late game. Ever seen Rengar attack a turret?

WeatheredOct 26, 20161 votes

People get frustrated no matter what. There have certainly been some balance fuck ups, but 80% of the ones people complain about are fine.

windwhispersOct 26, 20161 votes

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People get frustrated no matter what. There have certainly been some balance fuck ups, but 80% of the ones people complain about are fine.

I'm not talking about champion balance as much as the overall game.

Sure, the same 15 champions will always be played in high level because Riot sucks at balance, it's always been that way and it isn't going to ever change.

This is more the game flow. Games are long, drawn out and boring affairs...yet you already know the outcome after 10 minutes, split pushers are unstoppable, and dragon barely factors into the game at all. Whoever gets the first couple of turrets wins almost every game, even if they can't win a team fight and are behind on gold, kills, dragons, etc.

RequiemsfireOct 26, 20161 votes

I think you could argue the game hasn't been more balanced than previous. As if Irelia Riven and Olaf haven't been able to snowball off a few kills and kill everyone or any champion for that matter. Hell everyone despised the assassin meta.

What people are more complaining about is how ADC's in general have become so strong that when they begin to snowball they carry their game regardless of how well any other lane performed.

windwhispersOct 26, 20161 votes

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I think you could argue the game hasn't been more balanced than previous. As if Irelia Riven and Olaf haven't been able to snowball off a few kills and kill everyone or any champion for that matter. Hell everyone despised the assassin meta.

What people are more complaining about is how ADC's in general have become so strong that when they begin to snowball they carry their game regardless of how well any other lane performed.

Yeah that's a lot of what the problem is. The better team is often losing to one ad carry (ranged or melee) that can solo kill turrets in under 5 seconds and dive them at will after level 6. The team can be behind on objectives, gold, kills, none of it matters.

RequiemsfireOct 26, 20161 votes

This is still no different than what it's been like in the past, you know there was actually a time where solo splitpushing was a meta? Boi does that sound fun?

Very Hard EngageOct 26, 20161 votes

too much damage, "i need to kill him in 1 rotation or i risk wasting my ultimate" - at all stages of the game

kill ranges need to be brought back, people dont understand them and they expect to 100-0 anyone they please regardless of who builds what, and its dumb.

Handy Sandy Oct 26, 20161 votes

If adcs can basically suicide push a lane, keep in mind you have the same number of people on your team as well. Send someone with waveclear to stop them and then they can go roam. If the enemy team doesn't have an adc dealing the team's damage, they aren't going to win a 4v5.

windwhispersOct 26, 20161 votes

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If adcs can basically suicide push a lane, keep in mind you have the same number of people on your team as well. Send someone with waveclear to stop them and then they can go roam. If the enemy team doesn't have an adc dealing the team's damage, they aren't going to win a 4v5.

it sounds like a good idea except that if the character is a melee carry, it will just dive when you try to wave clear, and AP carries (who I assume is doing the waveclearing) can't do a fucking thing about it.

Handy Sandy Oct 26, 20161 votes

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it sounds like a good idea except that if the character is a melee carry, it will just dive when you try to wave clear, and AP carries (who I assume is doing the waveclearing) can't do a fucking thing about it.

except ad carries can't peel for themselves and are the squishies class in the game, literally every champion that isn't a support will kill them in a few hits. An adc isn't be going to be killing any assassins or mages that easily, the only one that's really vulnerable to them are bruisers/tanks and they're meant to counter them. But still anyone that usually is faster than them such as Master Yi or Garen are gonna die..

top laners are usually able to be kited ( item 3151 item 3116 ) even fast ones like riven or fiora. They only do damage if they're close to you

windwhispersOct 26, 20161 votes

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except ad carries can't peel for themselves and are the squishies class in the game, literally every champion that isn't a support will kill them in a few hits. An adc isn't be going to be killing any assassins or mages that easily, the only one that's really vulnerable to them are bruisers/tanks and they're meant to counter them. But still anyone that usually is faster than them such as Master Yi or Garen are gonna die..

top laners are usually able to be kited ( ) even fast ones like riven or fiora. They only do damage if they're close to you

I'm talking about melee adcs, obviously ranged ones won't be solo split pushing...

Handy Sandy Oct 26, 20161 votes

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I'm talking about melee adcs, obviously ranged ones won't be solo split pushing...

melee adcs are going to get kited if you send your own adc/midlaner

windwhispersOct 27, 20161 votes

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melee adcs are going to get kited if you send your own adc/midlaner

Hah, try kiting Irelia, Olaf, Riven, etc. Good luck on that, I'm sure they won't just dive you and 100% you under the turret.

Handy Sandy Oct 27, 20161 votes

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Hah, try kiting Irelia, Olaf, Riven, etc. Good luck on that, I'm sure they won't just dive you and 100% you under the turret.

if olaf ults then blow him up since his defense is reduced, if riven tries to chase you down slow her with Rylai's and either blow her up cause she's naturally squishy or run.

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