Mana less champs?

ThaneBrood·1/30/2020, 5:14:17 PM·7 votes·3,676 views

Why do you give this champs over tuned kits ? Garen riven “sett”

Sett Needs a nerf ,but we already know. High True damage on demand/ a skill shot that does 30%

Like he’s got weakness but his stats make punishing him impossible/ difficult

2lvls up i base and still get crushed by a champ with no items🤔 no resources that sits in lane

21 Comments

Jbels1/30/2020, 6:28:30 PM3 votes

There shouldn't be manaless fucking champions to begin with. They ALWAYS end up being balanced around their numbers. Champions with abilities that cost health are fine, because they are still paying with SOMETHING. Look at Garen. He's always either too strong or too weak. There's no inbetween with him.

R0ses R Red1/30/2020, 6:28:12 PM2 votes

my main issue with sett is that stupid passive. you can't actually poke him to death because of it, and, unlike garen's, you can't shut it down. Poke doesn't push him out of lane. He also has no mana, thus it's even harder to push him out of lane. Essentially, you have to all in this goon to kill him, but all-inning him is stupid risky if you're playing something meant to poke him down. If you aren't playing something meant to poke him down, he'll poke you down instead, beat you in all-ins, AND heal up from losing trades. He's just too good in general when Juggernauts are supposed to be constrained.

QuZeed YT1/30/2020, 6:30:45 PM2 votes

Everytime I see someone complaining about Sett I just understand why the world is wrong and January of this year was a proof that God is planing to end everything

Voluug131/30/2020, 7:34:04 PM2 votes

High True damage on demand

Sett might be a bit too strong (we dont know for certain, because it was reported that there were bugs on the data on several sites regarding winrate/pickrate for Sett), but his W certainly isnt ''on demand true damage'' when it depends 100% on the damage he receives.

12341231241234121/30/2020, 5:54:58 PM2 votes

yes, give him mana costs on his spell like everyone else, i dont understand why champs like that even exist..

ProphetOfDraven1/31/2020, 12:12:20 AM1 votes

I think some manaless champions are fine, Mostly the low mobility melee ones like Garen, Sett, Aatrox. But the high mobility ones like Yasuo Zed Akali Riven and Kennen even, just make the game exponentially harder for their enemies to play. Being manaless is designed to give you a better laning phase which is fine, but when these champions get to chose every fight and have an engage range the size of the entire lane AND they can permanently stay in lane, it becomes not fine.

DeusVult1/30/2020, 9:16:20 PM1 votes

I wouldnt care about Sett if his base stats werent so high. Between his passive and his base stats, he could win lane off of that alone.

Manaless champs are annoying, but at least if Riven takes a bad trade, she has 0 HP5, wereas Sett takes a bad trade and wins lane because hes then gets really high HP5 for no reason

Garson2111/30/2020, 11:38:38 PM1 votes

There should not be energy champions at all,or you pay for skills with mana or Hp OVER. I wish one day all this Vlad Riven abusers will have to think how to manage resources and not only spamm skills on CD

Bultz1/30/2020, 11:43:33 PM1 votes

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2gudaiya1/30/2020, 11:45:09 PM1 votes

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