Picks and Bans (Mostly Bans)

Fakewc··8 votes·988 views

I rarely post, usually bugs, never before on new boards. I've been sitting on this for about a year, and maybe it's been mentioned before.

A lot of people complained that the champion pool was becoming too large, and we needed and "extra" ban per side. Some argue that the checks and balances of revolving champion nerfs take care of this. I feel there is a solution in the middle.

Make draft bans blind.

The theory follows:

Each team chooses 3 bans with a single timer. Any copies are banned and re-picked once.

Example: Team Blue bans Warwick, Fizz, and Gnar. Team Red bans Warwick, Braum, and Lee Sin.

All 5 of these champions are banned, but then each team gets an effective "refund" if 1 ban each, for Warwick. Each team picks another champion to ban, and that's the end. In this case, if they pick the same champ, then only that champ is banned. You still end up with a minimum of 6 champs banned, but a possiblity of 7.

This fits 2 needs, the first being problematic or overpowered champions. Teams aren't penalized for "biting the bullet" and picking that obviously overpowered champion that SOMEONE has to burn a ban on. It's self-policing, and the community at large will determine and highlight those champions. This happens while combating the second need, the growing champion pool. A maximum of 9 bans is possible, only 1 more than the 8 proposed by so many. And you will only achieve this under specific circumstances, which indicates a general sense of agreement by everyone participating in the game.

The competitive scene will remain largely unchanged, as picks are generally made against specific players' champions. Even if a double-pick did occur, this would only reinforce the argument against that champion in the greater scope of the game and current meta.

I invite all to poke holes and ask questions.

Thanks much.

9 Comments

TecToNiiC4 votes

+1 favorite idea I've seen so far

Kidda3 votes

I really like this idea, and it would be so creepy to see "pick three more champs" because the other guy picked the exact same thing xD

Fakewc2 votes

Or, perhaps, strangely satisfying.

"I effin' KNEW those guys were cancer. At least I don't have to burn the next half-hour wondering if we even had a chance."

Kidda1 votes

Indeed :3 you'd have to admit though, if only six were banned because you picked the same thing AGAIN, you'd be at least a little creeped out ;)

Fakewc1 votes

And that someone fell asleep at the metaphorical wheel, champ-wise.

B1naryB0t2 votes

My big issue with this is that it takes away from some of the strategy of Draft Pick as it sort of takes away from the feel of "You pick, I pick, you pick, I pick, we try to out-think each other."

Rock Rockburgh1 votes

It would only apply to bans. From my understanding, they currently tend to serve the purpose of "ban broken A, ban broken B, ban someone the captain doesn't like." Since blue gets to pick first, and they know they're blue from the ban order, it gives them a significant disadvantage-- red has to ban broken A, since blue can firstpick it.

Fakewc1 votes

I see that, but I don't feel that most of ranked (or shudder to think, normal draft) really picks that deep on bans. If you go deeper, to the professional scene...they pretty much know who's which champ (yes, i mean to type who's which, it makes sense in my head) they are going to ban. the only people you really change the game for would be the 50 people or whatever in challenger who play against each other every game anyway. Even then, it's more screwing with each other than strategy.

Fakewc1 votes

Gonna try to bump this...

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