Bronze rant...

Tmaejor··1 votes·600 views

like many others....i just have a simple question...

how does riot expect us players that have a bad start to pull ahead and triumph? like i had a bad start got b5, as expected...

but ived climbed to b4 countless times...cant get past it cuz i only win around 9 lp a game, but lose 20+

so i can spend a whole day trying to climb out, and lose 1 game, and get dropped to almost where i started with a loss or two...

my mmr never seems to change no matter if i go 7-2 for a day, then 6-3 the next day...it never flucuates at all?

just looking for some reasoning or help, tips, advice etc...

thanks guys!

6 Comments

Rainbowgasm1 votes

Lp clamping is annoying for sure (back in S3 it was really bad, and it prevented me from reaching gold V by demanding I win no less than 20 games in a row). You are just gonna have to keep a consistent win/loss record for a while until your mmr goes up.

In the mean time, if I were in your position, I would be watching streams from diamond players and picking up tips on how to make the games even more of a stomp show than they already are. Stop caring about your rank and have fun tormenting the other low bronzies while you can. The games you play here will easily be more responsive to your input than they are at any of the higher skill levels so have fun with them.

Tmaejor1 votes

Thanks man!

yeah i watch streams constantly, ive invested so much time into this game its unreal. Studying mechanics, trying to have one go to champ in every lane, but trying to play 1 lane constantly to stay consistent. exploiting the broken champs and roles. making better decisions... last season was my first season, and i couldnt get out of b5 to save my life. Now i can get out of b5 easy, but when i hit b4 its like my mmr means nothing and doesnt change lol. like ill get demoted and win the next 4 games almost every time, then win a few more...lose 2 games and be demoted again lol

now i can see myself as a progressed player, its just very frustrating that there is next to 0 forgiveness in riots logic lol

but def will keep pushing and trying.

T RexHasLongLegs1 votes

Two things which may help, the first is are you duo que? That may mess w/ gains and losses. Second is probably the low MMR issue, unless you go on a streak for wins you don't really bring mmr up that much, especially depending on the games. Going 9-3 is great, but you lose more if your team was expected to win and gain less, so if you're matched in a bunch you're expected to win, and still lose some anyway then you won't get ass much because it's really like going 9-7 or 9-8 because you were so favored going into the games you were expected to go 10-2 or 11-1.

Last thing is about investing time and learning. This is something I did a lot of (and if I can get good enough to hit plat this season I'll write a guide about it. Went b4-g5 season 3 learning, and was b3 this season and now mid s5 after a couple weeks when I started learning again), and it is also something you can waste time if you're doing it wrong. One suggestion I'd recommend is check out How to top lane on youtube if you haven't his channel covers mechanics like wave control and freezing a minion wave that are really important in all lanes. The second is how you apply the effort you put into learning the things you talk about.

I picked up Heimer this season because he's fun (and because I can play him top and mid so I get to play him more often since 2 lanes) and started watching a heimer main's stream and really analyzing my wins and losses. Studying mechanics, focusing a lane, watching streams are all good, but it takes conscious effort to adjust behavior. For example, I did a lot of the things on heimer that I saw in the stream but I realized I wasn't auto attack harassing nearly as often as the streamer. I started focusing every game on auto attacking as many times as I could do it from levels 1-6 and focusing on doing it when they had to choose between getting creeps or hitting me, while my turrets would get the creep I would auto if I didn't attack them. I saw the CS difference between me and opponents shoot up and started winning more games in bronze because I had a lane advantage. Don't just watch streams and main a lane, focus on the specific mechanics that build advantage for what you're playing and where you're not doing the best you could. Remember the best way to get better is to assume that every loss, every death, everything that goes bad in a game is your fault. Look for a way to do it better next time and even if it wasn't your fault, then you might find something you could do better, or find a way to out play th opponent that keeps them from exploiting the mistakes of your team.

Craving1 votes

The reason this is happening is because your mmr is SO low that when you promote to bronze 4, your MMR actually ISN'T at the expected MMR, so you get less LP gains. In other words, the system doesn't think you belong there, and as a result you get less LP per win. Essentially this is what is happening: The average MMR of bronze 4 is say 900, and your mmr is like 750. You can't drop under bronze V because there is nothing there, but if you could that would be where you be, not bronze 4 or 5.

Salidfingers1 votes

its going to be a lot hard for you since you have more loses then wins.

On my bronze and silver accounts It knows i don't belong there. I win 20-30 lp and when i lose a game i lose 13-17 lp. at least that has been my luck.

I have over 30 games won over loses.

Learn someone like tryndamere.

Destroy lane:

Take enemy jungle:

Push Top and Mid towers:

If ahead just solo tank towers with (R) win game:

Tmaejor1 votes

Thanks guys! All of this really helps. I very rarely blame my team or another player (unless its the trolls). I try to keep a high head, it gets frustrating. But I will surely apply everything you guys said. I know one thing that is a downfall i tend to stick to my lane TOO much. I dont roam when i couldve especially like with zed or ahri...and the auto attacking issue is an issue with me too, especially with mages. I tend to rely on abilities. I noticed my cs was a problem too, and since i focused it, my cs has jumped from an avg 140 to about 240ish... give or take. Now i need to work on harrass and combining the two in the right sync.

But thank you guys so much. Keep the advice coming! lol

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