Matchmaking at its finest.

Applesauceys·Jul 24, 2016·6 votes·961 views

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Really how is a game like this even allowed for the system to consider. Let alone actually allow to play.

20 Comments

DænariusKhølerinJul 24, 20162 votes

This is a normal game? It says Normal in the top left.

CoffeeDaveJul 25, 20163 votes

Even for normals that's pretty bad. I didn't even think anyone pre-20 got matched up with the rest of the populace either.

DænariusKhølerinJul 25, 20162 votes

Do normals still match you based on MMR?

ApplesauceysJul 25, 20162 votes

To a point but i think it still supposed to bias you to be with other pre-30 accounts so your not just at a stat disadvantage from level 1. And even if it is there is still no way I should be in this game the account has less than 200 games on it and my main is low gold not no diamond.

Azules500Jul 26, 20161 votes

my main is low gold

Bam! You have your answer right there. Riot distinguishes smurfing accounts from actual new players. So even though you aren't level 30 yet, your MMR is quite high for being a pre-level 30. If you look at the teams' MMR, there is only a 119 MR difference; that is literally a division and a half (in ranked terms). As for the Diamond player, he is probably boosted or is at Plat MMR (look at his LP, he is Diamond 5 w/ 0 LP and may be in risk of demotion).

ApplesauceysJul 26, 20163 votes

my "high" mmr smurf hasn't seen another diamond account in any game sense this one even while still maintaining a 70% win rate. And that still doesn't address the fact that it paired 2 pre 30's against a team with no pre-30's. It doesnt answer anything.

Azules500Jul 26, 20161 votes

Alright, I investigated this issue a little bit more. Tristana is actually not level 18 as it would appear. Right now, Trist is at level 29 (op.gg doesn't update levels until you renew the profile). Since only a small minority of players are under level 30, matchmaking pairs you up with level 30s once you are high enough level (~21). As for the Diamond player, yes, I admit it is weird to face a Diamond in your game. In your actual game however, Xerath and Rengar (the Plats) got fed. So the Plat Xerath actually carried in a Plat Yasuo lane. And the Pre-lv30 Trist actually did pretty well (6-3 kd) while the Diamond Gnar only did decent (5-2 kd). I don't think rank played that big a role.

CalabokJul 25, 20162 votes

NORMALS has no impact in ranked play

CalabokJul 25, 20162 votes

It's OK if that happens. NORMALS is not ranked or recorded.

ApplesauceysJul 26, 20164 votes

So it's okay for riot to put me in a game where im forced to play for the next 20+ minutes have maybe a 10% chance of winning and get completely destroyed for the entire duration of the game, and consequentially be having no fun. All because it isnt recorded?

Azules500Jul 26, 20162 votes

Yo, this thread is cancerous. Whoever's randomly downvoted the posts defending this matchmaking needs to stop.

A) This is a normals game. NORMALS. If you want to wait forever in queue, you can play ranked instead.
B) Trist is not level 18. She is level 29, but her op.gg hadn't been updated.
C) OP is smurfing. That is why he's facing Plats.
D) The MMR difference is not that big, for a normal game. Most normal games have MMR differences of 120.

MarshbouyJul 24, 20161 votes

it's called a guy is in a premade with a bunch of low level players.

ApplesauceysJul 24, 20167 votes

I was 1 of those low leveled players and i was queued solo. There is 0 reason for me to have been in this game

Azules500Jul 25, 20161 votes

It's just a normal game; good practice for you. Once I had to lane against a Diamond Diana when I was Bronze, but I still managed to win laning phase.

ApplesauceysJul 25, 20164 votes

Because its such good practice to watch your entire team get murdered over and over again as you struggle to clear jung because you only have half of what you need to actually jung sub 30

Azules500Jul 26, 20161 votes

You will have those games where the other team stomps your team in ranked. Just gotta learn how to play losing games and carry. As for jungling, Tier 2 runes are good enough to jungle (and they only cost 1 IP each). During season 5, when jungle camps hurted much more, I could still clear with Tier 2 runes (on Master Yi). If you want more sustain, I'd recommend you level up W second when playing Yi and pick up a item 2032 , or play a high-sustain jungler like Warwick.

As for matchmaking, Riot takes a very lenient approach when matchmaking normal games; otherwise, queue times would be very long. Your MMR must be very high (you are smurfing) or you queued up during an unpopular time (3AM in the morning) to be placed with these players.

ApplesauceysJul 26, 20163 votes

Yes I am smurfing, but my main is in low gold. Which even if you had my main listed her instead of the smurf doenst make this game anymore balanced. And this wasnt 3am in the morning it was the middle of primetime on a sunday.

As for your suggestions most of them were awful, first of all tier 2 runes simply don't cut it on jungle yi especially with partial runepages. Unless you want to go b after every camp. item 2032 is a horrible noob trap of a buy. And leveling W is just plain retarded.

Azules500Jul 26, 20161 votes

If you don't want to take my advice and just complain about matchmaking go ahead. When I was leveling up my account, W 2nd was mandatory. Plus, LCS junglers all buy Hunter's Potion. I looked at your op.gg, you don't even use tier 2 runes. You have almost a full set of tier 3 runes, and you are level 23 so you already have your keystone. Jungling should be easy. I think your micromanaging or your pathing may be off. Are you starting Krugs first? If so, you should go Krugs->Raptors->Red so you can smite Red. That's all my advice, don't even bother replying.

ApplesauceysJul 26, 20163 votes

Guess what jsut because you did it doesnt make leveling W good. Check any site with champ stats they will all tell you, that you are wrong. Even with tier 3 runes jungling on anyone who isnt Fiddlesticks Warwick Nunu is stupidly6 hard early without a full set. As for hunter potions guess what this isnt LCS. What works for them doesnt work everywhere else. once again check any site that gives you stats. and you will see none of the proven optimal jungle builds include it