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Kindred is the only one who needs a buff

Valerdi··7 votes·2,896 views

Before I go just like to say as it stands right now Kindred seems to be the only balanced character in the game, the other that I can think of WAS Bard . AND SHE NEEDS A BUFF, what does that say about the balance of everyone. Probably due to the fact that doesn't have that much dmg, no CC, and has been nerfed apparently. Even though at no point was she even op or broken, although she does have that potential with enough hunts. BUT no one will ever reach that as it's easy to deny.

A buff or rework on her abilities is a must I suggest:

Stats

  • Her basic attack range should be 550 or 600
  • Movement Speed should be 350 I believe her speed is 333 with is way too long for a huntress as a bruiser like Tryndamere is faster by 12 speed?

Passive

  • All monsters should be marked not just river and enemy jungle
  • Marking baron should start at around 10+ hunts not 6
  • Actually randomize marks, rather not say why this needs to be done, but its obvious if you notice it

Q

  • Increase hit range probably to match her basic attack range or half of it (optional - does not scale with passive increased range so it would only match her starting attack range)
  • Increase distance travel of vault by 25% up to 50%
  • Kindred should still be able to basic attack while vaulting

W

  • Give True Vision within AOE even in bush / Or True Vision can only activate when in AOE and enemy is under 50% HP
  • Prioritize weakest and nearest enemy champion
  • Wolf should travel to targets faster/instantly and doesn't need to return to middle unless there are no enemies in range. Meaning if an enemy goes into AOE as the wolf is heading towards center it will turn around to attack instead of going to center.

E

  • Ability should also act as a basic attack instead of just marking, optional - doesn't count towards the bonus dmg. It just happens to attack while it marks.

R

  • Increase the HP threshold for you and allies by 50%. So while enemies stop at 10% hp you and allies would stop at 20%
  • Enemies do not heal (optional)
  • Reduce AOE by 30%

As a Death or Aspect of Death and huntress, she doesn't fit her roles as she doesn't have any CC which is unbecoming of a huntress and deals significantly less dmg than others. Whatever dmg you think she might deal, others do it better, just to name a few: XinZhao Vayne Urgot Udyr Twitch MonkeyKing Tristana Talon Rengar Nocturne MasterYi Khazix KogMaw Jax Ezreal Camille Caitlyn Azir Graves Elise Evelynn etc. Listed multiple jungles and champs with range to show why her range needs to be higher and needing a buff. Notice how in my suggestion I didn't add any increased dmg, CC, or escapes even though she needs it. I feel like making fixes to her abilities to where it should be should make her the first balanced champ in LOL. Adding dmg or changing her abilities too much might actually put her in a state of being op/broken, a state she's never been just FYI.

11 Comments

Nimblepaw3 votes

I agree her base movement speed is atrocious, I had a game where I had full boots and couldn't catch an ekko who had nothing but dorans and he dashed once.. this was a 30 second chase, yes I had atk speed boots but how is he STILL faster then me when I've got a 1000g investment and he has 0g like bruh

DereC42 votes

Bard is Bard. Enough said. Do not use the Bard's name in vain. All jokes aside i agree lol

Dr Dog2 votes

kindred is a tier 2 jger tho? she doesnt needs buffs or nerfs shes perfectly fine in the meta rn hell shes actually strong

Valerdi1 votes

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kindred is a tier 2 jger tho? she doesnt needs buffs or nerfs shes perfectly fine in the meta rn hell shes actually strong

I disagree I posted reasons why but you didn't except saying she's good as she is. Give reasons or your point is is basically an lie/opinion.

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Also Sejuani is objectively the worst jungler in the game right now. :(

That's what you get for playing support/tank as jungle. You will do better as support. Also last I check Sejuani isn't intended to be played as jungle.

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KIndred is a somewhat challenging niche pick adc mostly played in the jg. She takes more thought than graves or yi, but if you have some skill she's perfectly fine as-is. Do things right, she can be downright op; do them wrong, and she feels useless. That's kinda the price you pay for playing a short ranged squishy champ in a game filled with 1-shot burst and near-1-shot dps champs. But that doesn't mean she's weak.

She is not fine at all, coming from the best Kindred in LOL, self-proclaimed of course prove me wrong. Even when done right she falls short compared to other junglers that's why I listed some that can deny her hunts, and out-do her in every aspect. This imaginary idea you have of her being fine comes from getting kills by KS, being assisted, or actually ganking someone, in mostly late game. Something anyone can do, do better and most of the time don't have to resort to it.

The broken/op aspect of champs doing one shots or whatever comes from the fact that they probably worship Shia Lebeouf. They believe this idea that dealing the most damage as fast as possible gives (an illusion of) fast paced action.

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/what-is-lol

"League of Legends is a fast-paced, competitive online game that blends the speed and intensity" enough said drops mic

Dr Endeavor2 votes

Also last I check Sejuani isn't intended to be played as jungle.

What? Sejuani has been a jungler for a VERY long time. There were even periods where she was pick or ban for jungle lol

woodvsmurph2 votes

KIndred is a somewhat challenging niche pick adc mostly played in the jg. She takes more thought than graves or yi, but if you have some skill she's perfectly fine as-is. Do things right, she can be downright op; do them wrong, and she feels useless. That's kinda the price you pay for playing a short ranged squishy champ in a game filled with 1-shot burst and near-1-shot dps champs. But that doesn't mean she's weak.

Nimblepaw2 votes

Also Sejuani is objectively the worst jungler in the game right now. :(

WoonStruck2 votes

Every change you listed would push her to being OP as fuck outside of reducing her ult's AoE range. With all of them together, she'd be the most broken champ in League's history.

She absolutely does not need buffs right now.

She also HAS been OP at several points, while you unknowingly claimed otherwise.

Notice how in my suggestion I didn't add any increased dmg, CC, or escapes even though she needs it.

#You increased her damage significantly with a number of the suggestions.

Generally easier passive stacking

"Kindred should still be able to basic attack while vaulting"

"Wolf should travel to targets faster/instantly and doesn't need to return to middle unless there are no enemies in range. Meaning if an enemy goes into AOE as the wolf is heading towards center it will turn around to attack instead of going to center."

"Ability should also act as a basic attack instead of just marking, optional - doesn't count towards the bonus dmg. It just happens to attack while it marks."

"Enemies do not heal (optional)"

#You also increased her 'escapes'.

"Movement Speed should be 350" ######This would be absolutely broken. Why in the hell should she have one of the highest base MS in the game as a ranged champ?

"Increase distance travel of vault by 25% up to 50%"

"Increase the HP threshold for you and allies by 50%. So while enemies stop at 10% hp you and allies would stop at 20%"

Kotaro Foxy1 votes

good day to all Riot Staff and Player yea i main kindred i don't consider my self the best kindred champ but i have 2 mil mastery point and honestly i consider her way to weak and i love this champ more than the rest but she need to be rework also this patch 9.24 i am suffering a lot and btw Riot do make her few new skin i wanna buy them all the skin for kindred and Emote thank u

Lord Zeta 13131 votes

Are you actually Kidding me? She is perfectly fine. The one who really needs a buff is Aatrox

WoonStruck1 votes

Shes been broken at several points.

Her base ms is low because of her Q spam and being ranged.

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