Onslaught - Missions Killed the Game Mode

xCasino·Sep 15, 2018·37 votes·14,565 views

The title of this thread pretty much explains it all. In an already toxic game, these missions basically killed the game mode for anyone after the first couple days.

You'll normally get one person (sometimes more) that will afk or "feed" if they don't get their way in champ select. If the player doesn't get everyone to have however many augments they want....this person will either afk, "feed" or troll the team until you either surrender or get defeated.

Either fix the missions by changing them entirely OR just remove missions entirely. I get that Riot wants people to try harder difficulties and/or hardmodes but with the state of the player base this is entirely unplayable now.

I would suggest removing the missions as the mode itself is rather fun to grind if the players just play whatever they feel like.

41 Comments

SaezioSep 15, 201813 votes

I haven't seen any trolls so far

Z3SleeperSep 15, 20188 votes

No trolls, but plenty of ff's for missions. I did it to people too when we had 4 people and couldn't find a 5th. If the 5th didn't want to cooperate, we simply ff'd and looked again.

Sad that it wastes time by forcing you to load into game to surrender but gotta do what ya gotta do.

It's just an added hassle for both people doing missions and people playing for fun since they keep having to reset until they find like-minded randoms.

Now if the missions required a premade of 5, I could see that slightly fixing the issue. There'd still be people going in blind pick solo and asking for party up & ff for missions that would ff or throw to reset and try again though.

xCasinoSep 15, 20182 votes

Yea,

I can see that...and then there's me who would love to do the missions but stopped caring when going 6 games in a row resetting or wasting my time.

Spank the FoxSep 15, 20188 votes

Nobody liked the forced 5 man premade when the Star Guardian event was out, especially with no LFG feature in client.

SaezioSep 15, 20181 votes

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No trolls, but plenty of ff's for missions. I did it to people too when we had 4 people and couldn't find a 5th. If the 5th didn't want to cooperate, we simply ff'd and looked again.

Sad that it wastes time by forcing you to load into game to surrender but gotta do what ya gotta do.

It's just an added hassle for both people doing missions and people playing for fun since they keep having to reset until they find like-minded randoms.

Now if the missions required a premade of 5, I could see that slightly fixing the issue. There'd still be people going in blind pick solo and asking for party up & ff for missions that would ff or throw to reset and try again though.

Oh you mean in onslaught? Cause i've been spamming the Captain for the fun and never seen afk or ff

Z3SleeperSep 15, 20181 votes

Yeah Captain noone is doing missions.

Drumstick12Oct 5, 20181 votes

Unfortunately Captain is way too easy and Onslaught is unplayable because of "DO WHAT I WANT OR I AFK"-egomaniacs. :(

VermillionWolfSep 15, 20181 votes

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No trolls, but plenty of ff's for missions. I did it to people too when we had 4 people and couldn't find a 5th. If the 5th didn't want to cooperate, we simply ff'd and looked again.

Sad that it wastes time by forcing you to load into game to surrender but gotta do what ya gotta do.

It's just an added hassle for both people doing missions and people playing for fun since they keep having to reset until they find like-minded randoms.

Now if the missions required a premade of 5, I could see that slightly fixing the issue. There'd still be people going in blind pick solo and asking for party up & ff for missions that would ff or throw to reset and try again though.

Yah tbh we did it when me and 3 others had 3 aug's (for the golden ward) and some guy had 5 we ff. Happened multiple times. No point in playing if only one gets rewards, I generally dont know if thats toxic or not.

Drumstick12Oct 5, 2018

Guess what. It is. :(

FatedSaviourSep 15, 20184 votes

they learnt their lesson from invasion lol

rtbf221651412Sep 15, 20181 votes

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I haven't seen any trolls so far

I have. I used them as meat shields. Good times.

NaturesMayhemSep 15, 20182 votes

I've had at least 4 AFKs out of the 6 games I've played, really turned me off the gamemode.

Drumstick12Oct 5, 20181 votes

Same

EchoZeeroSep 15, 20186 votes

Got plenty of trolls or people going AFK cos most agreed to do one mission and one would not, then go afk.

Bob the ToastrSep 15, 20182 votes

Yeah, well over half of the missions are "do something will all 5 of your team" which is just awful because you're almost never going to get your whole team to agree to limit augments, or do all 5 one champ, or whatever.

Wayward FishSep 15, 20182 votes

I haven't had any issues at all with this. Most people walk their free content and have been kind to each other in terms of obedience...and I've played like 40+ games on the mode to grind out the stuff with my friends who come on at different times. Keep your chin up. We're out here trying too, promise.

ShadowDarkDragonSep 15, 20182 votes

This game mode is garbage and the only reason 80% of people play it passed the 2º lvl dificulty is because of missions, otheriwse almost anyone would play that...

Vlada CutSep 15, 20182 votes

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This game mode is garbage and the only reason 80% of people play it passed the 2º lvl dificulty is because of missions, otheriwse almost anyone would play that...

Majority of the boards = minority of the community. 1 post = singularity of the community and the boards. Not buying it, sorry.

Vlada CutSep 15, 20182 votes

Not true, people don't int or feed in this gamemode. The only exceptiom was a.premade we had in a 5 man premade. Still, missions ARE fun, I mean really, look at Guinsoos Bork Malphite and 5 Yasuo missions. At first I found Yasuo mission a bit questionable but the moment I tried it it was overwhelmingly fun. Not to mention you can do 5 Yasuo's with 4 augments on Onslaught and complete 3 missions at once.

NaturesMayhemSep 15, 20183 votes

"Not true, people don't int or feed in this gamemode", is this merely from your perspective, just because you have a certain experience doesn't mean everyone else does as well. I've had 4 AFKs in the 6 games I've played.

Vlada CutSep 15, 20183 votes

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"Not true, people don't int or feed in this gamemode", is this merely from your perspective, just because you have a certain experience doesn't mean everyone else does as well. I've had 4 AFKs in the 6 games I've played.

When you say perspective you mean being kind and not an average asshole who tells teammates to go afk because they didn't apply to your tasks for a mission.

NaturesMayhemSep 15, 20181 votes

Man you are making some nasty assumptions about somebody you never met. I'm not kind or an asshole, I mute my teammates because most people have nothing good to say if they're going to say anything. So no, I don't insult or aggravate any situation, I just play the game. Does stop people from afking as soon as the match starts or half way through it.

Vlada CutSep 15, 20182 votes

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Man you are making some nasty assumptions about somebody you never met. I'm not kind or an asshole, I mute my teammates because most people have nothing good to say if they're going to say anything. So no, I don't insult or aggravate any situation, I just play the game. Does stop people from afking as soon as the match starts or half way through it.

Sorry but I'm not backing up something that isn't true. If 4 out of 5 people in your 6 odyssey games matches trolled then that would mean majority of peoplenwould hate the game mode. And there are not that many inters in the whole community to begin with. Not to mention majority likes the gamemode. What else you gonna say, you had support shyvana top jinx ans 20% lee sin in ranked? Come on...

NaturesMayhemSep 16, 20181 votes

Sorry, what I meant by,"I've had 4 AFKs in the 6 games I've played.", was that there were a total of 4 AFKs. A player went afk in almost each game. Besides, even if was saying that I was having my entire team afk each game that does not directly correlate with the entire community. A large demographic requires a similarly large sample size to be accurate, sometimes the odds are just whack, so what you said isn't right. I could have been unlucky, I'm not saying the entire community acts this way. I used my experience to point out the issues in your definite statement. Nothing is for sure, you can't say,"people don't int or feed in this gamemode", unless there is some defining variable preventing it from happening. Because as long as it's a possibility, and in this case, nothing to prevent it, there is bound to be occurrences of feeding and inting.

"Not to mention majority likes the gamemode", according to who, you? That's a very strong statement considering that you very likely lack anything to support it. Just because the people who are talking about it seem to like doesn't mean the majority don't dislike it. Don't underestimate people's ability to have a opinion and not speak it.

"What else you gonna say, you had support shyvana top jinx ans 20% lee sin in ranked? Come on...", for someone who was calling me out for being toxic without even knowing me, you seem to be toxic enough yourself. We're,"conversating", here and you're casually trying to take shots. I wouldn't want to be in your game when you actually have something to be upset over.

ShadWoooSep 15, 20182 votes

Yeah, some sort of Looking For a Group feaure is needed because without it players do this shit.

I also go into game with randoms but I simply ask if they want todo 2 augments, if they decline I take all 5 and just try to beat it. But I see a lot of ppls who doesn't try at all if other random players won't do what he wants them to do.

Missed UltSep 15, 20181 votes

Yeah, just report those people. I'm pretty sure the League subreddit discord has an LFG section to find people

Busty DemonSep 15, 20181 votes

I don't have that many friends to complete the mission with me. So am stuck to ff every time. Kinda sad I can't have my own chances to try different stuff.

SanKakUSep 15, 20181 votes

So far from what I've noticed, a lot of the toxicity is coming from groups of players who just want their rewards NOW and think a little voice chatting with their ally will make up for the lack of experience their friends have. All of this despite that they may have a random in their team or 2 that hasn't even beat the hardest difficulty yet. I've seen people with only 2 augments in there relatively regularly and this is with players running down the timer in the lobby to make sure everyone has a chance to edit their augments while discussing that doing the mission will be impossible due to at least one player using all augment slots.

JonneeGSep 15, 20181 votes

I remember when Riot said the would make missions so that they wouldn't promote bad tactics. (eg, "build full crit on lux" would be a bad quest). For a while I kinda believed it.

Most of the quests are things that should be done anyways (take towers, deal damage, get kills). and while some people insisted on getting EVERY tower or dragon, it was mostly fine, because they were still somewhat legitimate strategies.

but... We had "take 5 tp's and win on Summoner's rift" And then "play all 5 sona or ziggs" And then "use only 2 augments and win on the hardest difficulty" And "take AD items on Malphite… Because reasons"

These quests not only rely on you handicapping yourself, but also handicapping your teammates. Side note: your teammates are most likely male and part of the "toxic male community". So don't these missions give them an opportunity to be more toxic? /s

If the event had a SOLO option (no matchmaking at all), I could see an argument for challenging yourself. It doesn't so moot point

Did I miss anything? Because Riot is making very little sense to me

RocketRelmSep 16, 20181 votes

The 5 TPs thing was nonsense I'll grant. Play all 5 sona or ziggs... is this about the "play as 5 of the same champion"? Cause that can be any of them. Use less augments for achievements as a team requires the whole 'team' to opt in, which has separate problems but certainly isn't something implemented without warning in champ select. AD items on malphite actually isn't 'that' horrible. Sure, it won't get you through 2 augment onslaught, but Autoattack Malphite is still decent, especially once you get the Transmute augment. (Plus, that Bork+guin mission can be completed on any difficulty, including the easiest one)

JonneeGSep 21, 20181 votes

Sorry about the late reply, life got hectic.

Quote from Rito dev blog on misions

This is a delicate area. It’s important to us that missions don’t negatively impact your games. This means missions can’t encourage players to play to lose or to play in sub-optimal ways. However, we’re making an exception for situations where all five players are signed up for the same challenge. ... Bad mission: Win a game with 300 AD as Lux. ... Our goal with Missions is to deepen all sorts of aspects of the game you already enjoy.

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/05/dev-on-missions/

After the "win with all 5 yas in onslaught" there comes the "win with all 5 ziggs or sona in onslaught" happens after the play all one champ mission. I'm pretty sure playing all ziggs/sona is sub optimal

how are the problems with the augment missions "separate"? and what warning do you get in champ select? I don't get what you're trying to say.

There are lots of people in onslaught with conflicting missions, and some people who don't care about doing ANY of the missions. which makes the people that care super hard rage/quit. In short, all 5 players are not signed up for the same challenge without premades.

I agree that the AD malph isn't the worst one, but is this not literally the picture example of a bad mission (AD Lux)?

Are these missions truly deepening the aspects we enjoy? or encouraging toxicity in a community famous for flaming?

T3rminusSep 21, 20181 votes

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I agree that the AD malph isn't the worst one, but is this not literally the picture example of a bad mission (AD Lux)?

The "300 AD Lux" example was assuming a regular game, not a game mode with new rules.

BotRK/Guinsoo's Malphite is actually supported by his innate and the W augments.

Just the LipSep 15, 20181 votes

Missions did not kill the game mode,

The player community who believe its ok to do this, and do not get punished did.

I got an afk in my 2nd game mode.

its a joke really. this is the only pvp oriented game (besides dota) that u can lose on purpose cause 4/5 players on the team are give up kids.

SugeMinPikkSep 15, 20181 votes

Nobody wants to cooperate. Every single game, before I can even start to type "all ziggs pls," someone instalocks yasuo

So then I say "4 of less augments pls" and play Jinx

Then nobody else does any damage, everybody else constantly suicides, and we lose

Because reasons

Kumiho AhriSep 15, 20181 votes

They main source of toxicity are the rewards for the missions. We wouldnt have this mess if they just gave cheap rewards for the mission like event-icons and event-ward skins (Star guardian event is the best example) and made the main goal of this mode to have fun with it. Toxic people play only for the rewards and not because they like the mode. Also Riot should have made the mission that require the whole team to do the same thing exclusive for team of 5 premades (and again the star guardian event is the example for how it is done right).

Demented GagSep 15, 20181 votes

Everyone has been cooperating in my experience so far. I had only one afk, but he came back in the end.

Noor SakataSep 16, 20181 votes

I never had any problems in the mode , only once we had an afker and then we surrendered at the second stage

SillaeSep 16, 20181 votes

Happened to me. Not saying remove missions, just saying people who want to complete the harder missions should find a premade. Seriously.

The jerk took Sona and said "everyone take 2 augs" and I said "I havent done this before I need at least 4" then he said "WAY TO BE A TEAM PLAYER REMAKE" in champ select. Seriously? I asked him to dodge, which he ignored.

Game started, he tried to surrender and everyone voted no, "WTF STOP WASTING OUR TIME" said the little troll.

He proceeded to stand still and let himself be killed repeatedly in the hopes we'd die without him. We made it to the Kayn boss fight.

Not just the Kayn boss fight, but he was down to 10% health when finally everyone died. If that jerk had committed even a little bit the 4 other people could have gotten the mission they needed. If you want to do the harder ones, and no one else does, FIND A PREMADE AND DONT DRAG THE REST OF SOLO QUEUE DOWN WITH YOU.

MrBadgerzSep 16, 20181 votes

So many trolls or afks and it really is rough having different missions so not many are on board.

Jackom1Oct 5, 20181 votes

Agree, it was fun up to the second-to-hardest difficulty, the top one had only people screaming "2 augs" "4 augs" "5 x character", and if someone didn't agree, then it was 10-20 minutes of one guy ruining the game for everyone else.