shaco rework?

Metamateriaru·Oct 25, 2016·3 votes·1,184 views

shaco that is my main and I love play him since when he realese the rework of all assasain is good but the rework of shaco is very bad any shaco player could leave lol from that update and I think u could d something about the new shaco skills: the Q it has a nerf 14 second cooldown this is bad for escape and it get critical damage strike from behind just and if it strike not from behind it cost the normal damage of the auto attack it hopeless to play shaco like this and the W it doesn't stack that is very bad to play ap shaco and ad and the E never lower the speed of auto attack from monster and it has bad damage too and the R it wont even be good to boxes when the clone despair and I think if u buff him it be good not nerf him please do something riot

6 Comments

TheUglyDucklngOct 26, 20162 votes

Im a shaco main too. I put my own discussion up and said that it was bull. And most of the people said that they shouldnt go through with it. But i can bet you 1000000000000000000000000000000000$ that riot will not listnen to the comunity (as always) and still go through with it.

ChaddyFantomeOct 25, 20161 votes

The ENTER KEY learn to use it.

C4pt ChunkOct 25, 20161 votes

You do realize that the Q cd change is actually better for Shaco right? -3 second increase means that CDR affects it more and if you attack an enemy it reduces the cd by a flat 2.5 seconds. if you even get 20% cdr and attack somebody the cd is lower than 11 seconds would be not to mention 45% reduces it even further. -Stacking 5 boxes on top of each other never really made him a good champion. Stacking boxes is not reliable or a good playstyle so that did not really do jack squat especially since you can still place boxes next to each other. If stacking boxes was the only way you could get kills, learning to actually play champions in a way that is good will help you improve your playstyle. -Regarding the attack speed reduction of monsters removal, this doesn't matter as A. Jungle is going through a massive overhaul B. His boxes took most of the damage when he needed it help anyway & C. His backstab now deals bonus damage to monsters.

And this is just the topping on the cake -How can you call this a nerf when Shaco's Two-Shiv Poison now does % missing hp that goes up to 8%? This right here makes Shaco not worthless as the game moves into lategame.

NavyDiveaOct 25, 20161 votes

-The invis time on Q early is near useless, the 40% damage increase with old lvl 1 Q is better than a strait 20 at any point and mid to late it falls off hard, making him even worse late game. The CDR point is has no value as Building CDR with his current time would be about equalor better if you don't hit. Will admit the AP ratio is nice but I hope that's not what they are pushing.

no one actually cares about the box thing for competitive, its just fun in URF. Slightly annoying for first camp.
ATS nerf may or may not matter depending how much the passive change actually helps. Side note- the new jung is currently trash, lets hope they fix it soon.

And the last point will only matter if they buff his E, HARD. With the massive reduction in base damage alone his target will have to be missing 900-1k health to make up for the damage lost. That's not even considering the fact this Ratio's have been nerfed, so hes even more useless now that he cant even burst squishies.

The ult buff is pointless as the boxes die to a stiff breeze, might be relevant if they just attack and not set up invis.

Ready 2 B BlamedOct 26, 20161 votes

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You do realize that the Q cd change is actually better for Shaco right?

I admit that Q is.. healthier but it's not better and your math is incredibly off trust me.

TheUglyDucklngOct 27, 20161 votes

lets say there is a Talon with 2000hp and hes lost 1500you are only doing 120 DAMAGE WITH HIS E! AND THATS WITH HIM MISSING 3/4 OF HIS HEALTH AND THATS AT MAX LEVEL AT 5% ITS ONLY 75 DAMAGE AND HE WONT EVEN HAVE 2000HP YET! and about youR C. His backstab deals bonus damage to jg minions ITS USE TO DO EXTRA DAMAGE TO EVERYONE. And he has nothing that will make him better in late game. Hes still just there to kill the ADC and smite barron as always.